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Why We Built the Ivory Tower (Surprising)
The New York Times ^ | May 21, 2004 | STANLEY FISH

Posted on 05/22/2004 5:10:42 PM PDT by Hawkeye's Girl

After nearly five decades in academia, and five and a half years as a dean at a public university, I exit with a three-part piece of wisdom for those who work in higher education: do your job; don't try to do someone else's job, as you are unlikely to be qualified; and don't let anyone else do your job. In other words, don't confuse your academic obligations with the obligation to save the world; that's not your job as an academic; and don't surrender your academic obligations to the agenda of any non-academic constituency — parents, legislators, trustees or donors. In short, don't cross the boundary between academic work and partisan advocacy, whether the advocacy is yours or someone else's.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Miscellaneous; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: academia; college; highereducation; lessons; teaching; university
Quite interesting, and totally unexpected IMHO.
1 posted on 05/22/2004 5:10:43 PM PDT by Hawkeye's Girl
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To: Hawkeye's Girl

Fish is the same one that was on O'Reilly once, seemingly stepping well outside the bounds of what he advocates in his article. Then, a professor is still entitled to be an activist, it's just that his in-class conduct should not be tainted by his outside interests.


2 posted on 05/22/2004 5:14:44 PM PDT by Skywalk (Transdimensional Jihad!!)
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To: Hawkeye's Girl

Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach. And those who can't teach, demonstrate. (They still cash their paychecks though.)


3 posted on 05/22/2004 5:15:23 PM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (This fatwah direct to you from the holy city of Skokie.)
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To: Hawkeye's Girl

Good one. Thanks for posting this piece. Looks like after a decade of conservatives hammering home the point about political bias in academia, some are finally getting it.


4 posted on 05/22/2004 5:16:13 PM PDT by nwrep
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To: NaughtiusMaximus

No, those who can't teach teach other people how to teach.


5 posted on 05/22/2004 5:47:54 PM PDT by CasearianDaoist
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To: nwrep

I have always hated this guy.
Either he has changed or I was wrong.
Seems like pretty sensible advise from and to the ivory tower.


6 posted on 05/22/2004 5:59:58 PM PDT by genghis
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To: Hawkeye's Girl

Very interesting and as you say, it is a quite surprising essay. I found myself in almost complete agreement with it. Unsaid is that one of the big differences between teaching CHILDREN in high school and below is that you are responsible for building character while teaching ADULTS even if young adults in colleges and universities we do not build character.


7 posted on 05/22/2004 6:11:39 PM PDT by JLS
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To: Hawkeye's Girl
NYT.. first strike, they are proven and admitted liars
second (small) strike, they require excerpting
third strike, registration

Looks to me like they are so embarrassed and controlling about their product they really don't want people reading it.

So I won't.

Besides, it's not like I can believe a single word of it, anyway...

8 posted on 05/22/2004 6:16:05 PM PDT by Clint Williams (It is the press. It lies. What else do you need to know?)
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To: CasearianDaoist
No, those who can't teach teach other people how to teach.

The version I like best is, "Those who can't do, teach; those who can't teach, teach teachers; those who can't teach teachers, write books about teaching teachers. And those who can write books about teaching teachers are administrators."

9 posted on 05/22/2004 9:12:19 PM PDT by formercalifornian (Nancy Pelosi owns 2 vineyards, many high-rent office buildings in SF and millions in pocket change)
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And somewhere way down the chain of incompetence they run the Dept. of Education.
10 posted on 05/23/2004 3:21:11 AM PDT by CasearianDaoist
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To: Clint Williams
second (small) strike, they require excerpting

Before you criticise others you should get your own facts straight.

11 posted on 05/23/2004 8:19:19 AM PDT by liberallarry
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