I forced nothing on you and as usual, you're way off base. My bone of contention was with your obvious approval of bad behavior by your buddy, the arrogant one, 68grunt. So it wasn't necessary to give us a diatribe in defense of Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger. Typical D1 BS. You never pass up an opportunity to obfuscate and insult. What a pinhead.
You and others remain infatuated with Schwarzenegger. You have placed him on a political pedestal and consider him the savior of California. That's your right. But in my book, that's a crock of shit. Arnie is a liberal RINO!, now and forever more. He works around the margins of political issues and tries to intimidate friend and foe alike. That is not the sign of a good leader. He has few conservative qualities consistent with Ronald Reagan and he has little in common with the current occupant of the White House.
You call me devisive because I don't believe PresBush can win California. There isn't one poll that has Bush beating Kerry, or any Democrat for that matter. NOT ONE! Get that through your thick skull. That part of your argument is pure sophistry.
>>>When you start jumping on people who have no ax to grind with Schwarzenegger, you're being devisive.
Baloney! FreeRepublic is a conservative website, that promotes the conservative agenda. FR doesn't support the liberal agenda of pro-choice, pro-immigration, pro-gay unions and wealth transfer politicians, who want to spend more and more of the taxpayers money on social programs that divide American's and weaken us culturally and morally.
California is in debt up to its eyeballs. Arnold the liberal has mortgaged the states future through bond initiatives that will force the children of Calfifornia to pay for the mistakes and mismanagement of not only Boy Davis, but of Arnold Schwarzenegger too.
You and others have sold out California for a hand full of promises made by a liberal politician. Remember what Arnold said early in the recall camapign. Once he gets things turned around and the budget is out of the red and back in the black, he will push to fully fund all the social programs of California. That is pure social liberal Democrat ideology. If you accept it, you're no conservative.
And lastly. Tom McClintock is a good conservative Republican and I believe he would have made a good Governor too. You don't hide your obvious hatred for McClintock and anyone who dared support his candidacy. So be it. Your disdain for McClintock is matched by your disdain for PresBush. And don't bother denying it either.
I forced nothing on you and as usual, you're way off base.
After reading your comments on this thread, you've got a lot of nerve telling anyone they are off base.
My bone of contention was with your obvious approval of bad behavior by your buddy, the arrogant one, 68grunt.
The only arrogant person I saw on this thread was you telling everyone else that they were backing a liberal. 68Grunt had your number and it's eating you up. Too bad.
So it wasn't necessary to give us a diatribe in defense of Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger. Typical D1 BS. You never pass up an opportunity to obfuscate and insult. What a pinhead.
My so-called defense of Schwarzenegger, was nothing more than an explanation of a reality you have repeatedly demonstrated an inability to grasp. This inability to comprehend California political dynamics was demonstrated before, during and after this last election. Unable to own up to it and recognize the truth for what it is, you trapse around the forum insulting folks at random. So be it. Some of us are not going to go silently into the night in the face of your ignorance. If you with to characterize them as you did 68Grunt or myself, so be it. I think 68Grunt can take it, and I know I can.
You and others remain infatuated with Schwarzenegger.
You may be sexually aroused by McClintock, but I can assure you I am not infatuated with Schwarzenegger. This does begin to answer a few questions I had regarding your inability to address the McClintock/Schwarzenegger issue rationally though.
You have placed him on a political pedestal and consider him the savior of California.
No, you have assumed that I have done so, and that has made you look like an ass. I recognize Schwarzenegger's shortcomings and appreciate other things that he has done that are positive.
That's your right. But in my book, that's a crock of shit.
The only crock on this thread has been you and your poor attitude. You know nothing of my policital leanings and make assumptions that bear nothing to do with reality. Then you make extrapolations based on those assumptions that are wildly off base. In short, you're lost in space fella. That's why 68Grunt was right on target when he said you are an embarassment to the name you have chosen to post under here on the forum.
Arnie is a liberal RINO!, now and forever more.
Schwarzenegger is more liberal than I would like, but he is not the consumate liberal you have tried to tar and feather him with. You give him no credit, then bash him constantly. That is beneath you. It is beneath the level of particpant that should be taking part on this forum. What is conservatism if not honest about players on the political stage? You do not demonstrate that honesty. You are not honest about the good things Schwarzenegger does, and continually try to besmirch him whether he does good or bad.
He works around the margins of political issues and tries to intimidate friend and foe alike.
Reagan Man, you have an enormous shortcoming when it comes to comprehension skills. The article this thread was predicated upon, lists a number of instances where Schwarzenegger has gone out of his way to be friendly to friend and foe alike. In reaction you make the above comment. Frankly it's a little disturbing to watch you embarass yourself like this.
That is not the sign of a good leader. He has few conservative qualities consistent with Ronald Reagan and he has little in common with the current occupant of the White House.
Read the article again Reagan Man. I'm not sure it will do any more good than the first time you read it, but it's worth a try. Schwarzenegger keeps the lines of communiation open with his politcal adversaries. I think you can remember another political figure who struck up a good friendship with Tip O'Neal and a guy named Gorbachev. If you try real hard, you might see some parallels with California's current governor.
You call me devisive because I don't believe PresBush can win California. There isn't one poll that has Bush beating Kerry, or any Democrat for that matter. NOT ONE! Get that through your thick skull. That part of your argument is pure sophistry.
Polls... blah blah blah blah. Please remind us how precise and accurate the media polls are at election time. Man, you have definately taken an overdose of your dufus pills today. 1. Schwarzenegger is wildly popular. 2. He will stump for Bush. Is this getting too technical for you?
>>>When you start jumping on people who have no ax to grind with Schwarzenegger, you're being devisive.
Baloney! FreeRepublic is a conservative website, that promotes the conservative agenda. FR doesn't support the liberal agenda of pro-choice, pro-immigration, pro-gay unions and wealth transfer politicians, who want to spend more and more of the taxpayers money on social programs that divide American's and weaken us culturally and morally.
Okay Mr. Wizzard, get back to me when you can list one single bill or initiative process that Schwarzenegger has implemented to advance any of the above agenda. Until then I'll just recognize that you're a devisive nincompoop.
California is in debt up to its eyeballs. Arnold the liberal has mortgaged the states future through bond initiatives that will force the children of Calfifornia to pay for the mistakes and mismanagement of not only Boy Davis, but of Arnold Schwarzenegger too.
You are one of the densest people I have seen post on this forum. You really know nothing at all about most everything. Yes California is up to it's eyeballs in debt. Schwarzenegger didnt' get us there. He did introduce and push through a $15 Billion dollar bond measure. There was short term debt coming due in several months and he had no choice but to raise revenue in some manner. Passing the bonds prevented him from having to support the raising of taxes. I guess you didn't know that, or simply refuse to acknowledge it. As for California's kids having to pay that debt off, our current tax structure is paying those bonds off. Our children have nothing to do with it. And you are woefully ignorant on the process.
As the years go by, California's populace grows and it's tax base with it. Over a period of five to seven years, the taxpaying base expands. If Schwarzenegger can cap growth and expand business, the debt will right itself. He has been cutting, something you seem to have chosen to ignore. He is on the right track, and you are simply lost, flailing for an issue to prove you were right last fall. Well, you weren't, so give it up.
You and others have sold out California for a hand full of promises made by a liberal politician.
You and John Kerry and the democrat party have a lot more in common than I and they do. You make stuff up as you go, and simply refuse to acknowledge reality on any level. My post to here explains why you are so wrong. You won't acknowledge it, but then that's okay.
Remember what Arnold said early in the recall camapign. Once he gets things turned around and the budget is out of the red and back in the black, he will push to fully fund all the social programs of California. That is pure social liberal Democrat ideology. If you accept it, you're no conservative.
Yeah, let me recount the recent past for you. You babbling idiots first said Schwarzenegger would not repeal the car tax. Then you said he'd never refund it. Then you said he'd never work on workman's comp. Then you said he'd raise taxes. Well the 'woe-is-me' campaign you been waging is now batting 0.000 percent. That's a damn good average.
I don't approve of this attitude by Schwarzenegger, but then according to you I was a real fool to support Schwarzenegger rather than Bustamante like you guys did. I guess I'll have to carry that heavy cross.
And lastly. Tom McClintock is a good conservative Republican and I believe he would have made a good Governor too. You don't hide your obvious hatred for McClintock and anyone who dared support his candidacy. So be it. Your disdain for McClintock is matched by your disdain for PresBush. And don't bother denying it either.
The mischaracterizations in this short paragraph are legion. On many occasions I have stated that I agree with McClintock's platform, but you and I part ways when it comes to characterizing his allegence to conservatism. You see, when it comes to reality, you have to do what's best for conservatism. Locking your vote away and giving the likes of Bustamante a 10% jump on the only guy that can beat him, IS NOT SOMETHING A GOOD CONSERVATIVE DOES. McClintock sold out conservatism when he did what he did. I'll NEVER trust him again, and you can sit on that and spin fella.
As for McClintock making a good governor, you're still in the 'puddle of tears' phase and we're about five to six months away from the election by now. Put away your dolly and your Little Missie Bake Oven and grow up. McClintock is not governor. It could have been worse. Get over it!
I supported McClintock's candidacy until he chose to go postal. "I'm not going to win, but I'm going to take the party down with me", is not the mark of a statesman. If you can't grasp that, what are we even conversing for? You're have lost connection with political reality at just about every level.
You know Reagan Man, if I were a politcal candidate you're the last person I'd want supporting me. You alienate people with a genious that is rarely matched. There are many fine qualities that I appreciate about President Bush. I have said so on this forum. You and a few other malcontents have chosen to focus on the other comments I have made, where I pointedly disagree with him. If you wish to fixate on those comments and not take into consideration the favorable comments I make, so be it. I can't stop you from being a pinhead if you want to be. Go for it. And please accept my congratulations for your rich success to this point.