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Terri Schindler-Schiavo MAY & JUNE 2004 DAILIES
http://www.conservative-spirit.org/ | May 22, 2004 | floriduh voter

Posted on 05/22/2004 7:07:30 AM PDT by floriduh voter

Believers in the U.S. Constitution and the Declaration of Independence:

Where is Terri's independence?

I'm talking about her independence to learn and to be free from her lonely room.

To kick off Terri's May-June 2004 Dailies, our first article is by Deroy Murdock of Scripps Howard News Service.

Let Terri Schiavo's Parents Restore Her Dignity. May 22, 2004

http://www.naplesnews.com/npdn/images/columnists/deroymurdock.jpg

Derry Murdock


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida; US: Pennsylvania
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To: pickyourpoison

No time frame was given but I suspect a week or less. Anything re: Terri's a hot potato. It either comes back to deny the Schindlers to join in Schiavo v. Bush or to order Judge Baird to allow them to join. It could go either way. The premise that they have to prove they have an interest in Terri's Law is RIDICULOUS. She's their loved one and the state wants to help murder her! That's clear and convincing imo.


621 posted on 06/15/2004 7:11:37 PM PDT by floriduh voter (http:// www.conservative-spirit.org (FV) http://www.jangovan.com/ to Defeat Greer)
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To: Lauren BaRecall

Greer is sitting, waiting to see what the Florida Supremes do with Terri's Law. It will further complicate matters that the 2nd DCA heard the Schindler's Oral Argument. I hope that Terri's being well cared for while all this legal wrangling is occurring.


622 posted on 06/15/2004 7:13:54 PM PDT by floriduh voter (http:// www.conservative-spirit.org (FV) http://www.jangovan.com/ to Defeat Greer)
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To: gww1210

Thank you so much, Gordon. You don't post often but when you do, it's dynomite!


623 posted on 06/15/2004 7:15:26 PM PDT by floriduh voter (http:// www.conservative-spirit.org (FV) http://www.jangovan.com/ to Defeat Greer)
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To: floriduh voter; pickyourpoison; All

"Y'all're Welcome" = You all are welcome.

And, thank you for your interest.

gordon


624 posted on 06/15/2004 8:00:33 PM PDT by gww1210 (Y'all're welcome...)
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To: gww1210
Many thanks Gordon.
Your report is excellent.
625 posted on 06/15/2004 8:20:38 PM PDT by mickie
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To: gww1210; MarMema; swilhelm73; floriduh voter; phenn; Ohioan from Florida; Robert Drobot; ...
Terri's Law Hearing Notes June 14 in Lakeland

Thanks for all you did to bring that to us here, Gordon. As you point out, no other news source has covered that. Special OFF PING to your post and the info below posted by swilhelm and MarMema:

The Legacy of Nazi Medicine -- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1154102/posts -- how eugenics took hold / rationalization.

Tracy Latimer, Disability Rights and the Left -- http://www.canadiandimension.mb.ca/v35/344rm.htm -- another guardian decides that his disabled ward has an unacceptably poor quality of life and would not want to live this way. As MarMema's first link -- http://www.normemma.com/artaleof.htm illustrates, such cases are more comparable to Susan Smith's murder of her two sons which she says was done out of love and compassion, but was rather for her own convenience.

626 posted on 06/15/2004 8:23:54 PM PDT by cyn (prayers always for Terri Schiavo and her family.)
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To: Robert Drobot

Robert, thanks for all the work you did last fall in cataloguing Terri's threads. It was yet another labor of love and conern done on Terri's behalf. As we descend the path down this slippery slope, it will be left our claw and scuff marks in it.

FR has once again served its purpose to inform. It is good to be here with you all. Good night, FR; good night, Terri.


627 posted on 06/15/2004 8:28:09 PM PDT by cyn (prayers always for Terri Schiavo and her family.)
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To: gww1210; floriduh voter

I'm thinking that once the decision is made, then we'll read also of media presence at the hearing and their observations. iow, this hearing itself was not considered worthy of space, but the decision will be.


628 posted on 06/15/2004 8:32:20 PM PDT by cyn (prayers always for Terri Schiavo and her family.)
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To: cyn
" it will be left [with] our claw and scuff marks in it." -- which leads to one of those late-night philosophical discussions. Where is the victory; where is the virtue? I'd rather not descend. I'd certainly rather emerge from this victorious, with Terri returned to her family to live the rest of her natural life.

In Your hands, O Lord, and help us to help. Bring in others who can also work on Terri's behalf, beyond all Terri's family and friends can ask or imagine.

629 posted on 06/15/2004 8:39:13 PM PDT by cyn (prayers always for Terri Schiavo and her family.)
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To: gww1210

Wow! Thanks a million! What coverage!

I haven't heard a peep about it up here (NY).


630 posted on 06/15/2004 8:43:13 PM PDT by Lauren BaRecall (Although Satan plays a really great game of chess, remember that God plays an infinitely better one.)
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To: Lauren BaRecall; floriduh voter; tutstar; All
GREER in Gulf Coast Business Review June 11 - 17 -- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1150849/posts?page=40#40 -- fv posted this interesting article to another thread
631 posted on 06/15/2004 9:51:25 PM PDT by cyn (prayers always for Terri Schiavo and her family.)
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To: cyn

Thanks, cyn! Prayers for Terri and her family.


632 posted on 06/15/2004 9:53:21 PM PDT by windchime (Podesta about Bush: "He's got four years to try to undo all the stuff we've done." (TIME-1/22/01))
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To: windchime; cyn; Ohioan from Florida; pc93; FL_engineer; FR_addict; Theodore R.; JulieRNR21; ...
JUNE 16, 2004: BREAKING

This morning, a one hour hearing has been scheduled in the Sixth Judicial Circuit to address the Writ of Quo Warranto filed by attorney Pat Anderson on behalf of Bob and Mary Schindler. Michael Schiavo's attorneys have asked that the court dismiss this writ.

The intent of this writ is to compel Michael Schiavo to explain what authority he maintains as guardian of Terri Schindler-Schiavo.

The state of Florida mandates that a guardian file an annual plan of care with the courts prior to the year addressed. However, Michael Schiavo has not done so in a number of years and has petitioned for numerous extensions long past the required filing dates on others. On June 1, 2004, his attorney, Deborah Bushnell, filed notice of plans for 2001 through 2002 and 2002 through 2003. With that, attorneys representing Mr. Schiavo want the writ of Quo Warranto dismissed as moot.

However, as the law mandates such plans to be filed PRIOR to the year addressed, the Schindler family feels that this issue is anything but moot.

Furthermore, Terri recently had 5 teeth extracted. In a faxed notification to the Schindler's attorney, Deborah Bushnell stated that an oral surgeon declared the deterioration of Terri's teeth to be from 'nonuse'. The Schindlers have argued for years in court that Terri has not received proper dental care or hygiene.

Since the extraction of her teeth, no effort has been made to fit Terri with a partial denture or any other appliance to prevent further serious complications. This is a violation of Florida Statute 744.3215 which states that an incapacitated person retains the right to necessary services and rehabilitation.

(FV says: I don't have the time of today's hearing... As soon as I have any other news, I'll post it here. Please ping your Terri pals to this post.) Thanks, FV

633 posted on 06/16/2004 4:47:05 AM PDT by floriduh voter (http:// www.conservative-spirit.org (FV) http://www.jangovan.com/ to Defeat Greer)
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To: gww1210

ping to 633


634 posted on 06/16/2004 4:47:52 AM PDT by floriduh voter (http:// www.conservative-spirit.org (FV) http://www.jangovan.com/ to Defeat Greer)
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To: floriduh voter; nanetteclaret; cyn; Ohioan from Florida; CindyDawg
Heavenly Father, we return to give You thanks that You continually empower the legal team for this mother's child, for time after time her cause is brought before the judge. The Schindlers do not relent, such is the love for their daughter, and Michael has not relented, such is the hatred for his wife. Vindicate this family, Merciful Father ... may repentance grip Michael's heart ... set Terri firmly back into the love and care of her family. Stir the judicial system to righteousness and compassion and adherence to law, for You, the Righteous Judge, will sit in judgment. May none be found lacking, in the Name of Jesus, I pray, Amen ...
635 posted on 06/16/2004 6:54:38 AM PDT by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His Word ...)
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To: floriduh voter

Hi. I am on a list that sends me Bible verses every day.

I get two different ones.

Anyway, one of them today was Isaiah 10:1

"Destruction is certain for unjust judges, for those who issue unfair laws."

Awesome, huh! Who says God doesn't comfort the heart when you feel helpless? It seems like every time I have trouble about a particular situation, I get a Bible verse that is matched to it to comfort me.

Awesome!!!!


636 posted on 06/16/2004 8:42:32 AM PDT by atruelady
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To: floriduh voter

Thanks, FV! Will watch for news on this hearing.


637 posted on 06/16/2004 11:59:17 AM PDT by windchime (Podesta about Bush: "He's got four years to try to undo all the stuff we've done." (TIME-1/22/01))
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To: windchime; Nursie Cheryl; All
First, it's Official. Per Bay News 9, the Florida Supremes NOW OFFICIALLY HAVE Schiavo v. Bush re: Terri's Law.

Florida Supreme Court To Hear 'Terry's Law' Appeal

EMAILED TO ME... POSTED: 4:05 pm EDT June 16, 2004

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. -- The protracted legal battle over the life of a brain-damaged woman whose family and husband disagree over whether she'd want to die or be kept alive will move to the Florida Supreme Court.

The Supreme Court agreed 4-3 Wednesday to hear the case over a law allowing Gov. Jeb Bush to order doctors to continue to feed Terri Schiavo by a tube at her Pinellas County nursing home.

Michael Schiavo has sued Bush, challenging an October law which allowed the governor to order the reinsertion of the feeding tube six days after her husband had it removed. Michael Schiavo contends his 40-year-old wife, who has been in a persistent vegetative state for more than a decade, does not want to be kept alive artificially.

Schiavo's parents say she recognizes them and they contend she would want to be kept alive.

Michael Schiavo is arguing the law is unconstitutional because it violates Terri Schiavo's right to privacy and the separation of powers. The governor has defended his action, saying the law allows for another level of protection for disabled adults, especially in a case where the patient's family is at odds over her wishes.

The state Supreme Court scheduled oral arguments on the case for Aug. 31. It took the case from the 2nd District Court of Appeal in Lakeland, which asked the high court to take up the matter as one of "great public importance (that) has a great effect upon the proper administration of justice throughout the state."

REGARDING THE GUARDIANSHIP HEARING TODAY, which was a sudden hearing regarding whether Michael is fit to be Terri's guardian, Pat Anderson did a superb job. Once I get permission to post a report here from someone who attended same, I'll post it.

638 posted on 06/16/2004 3:09:27 PM PDT by floriduh voter (http:// www.conservative-spirit.org (FV) http://www.jangovan.com/ to Defeat Greer)
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To: cyn; All; Republic; dandelion; sweetliberty; JulieRNR21; FL_engineer; pc93; Theodore R.; Pegita; ...
The Florida Supremes scheduled Oral Argument for August 31st, which coincidentally, IS THE DAY OF JAN GOVAN'S ELECTION. Defeat George Greer on the day Terri's Law is being heard in the Supreme Court of Florida!

That is approximately ONE YEAR FROM THE DAY THAT JUDGE GREER PUT JEB'S REQUEST FOR A GUARDIAN IN "the file".

We are reaching a milestone.

DEFEAT GEORGE GREER. JOIN floriduh voter's ping list.

639 posted on 06/16/2004 3:24:39 PM PDT by floriduh voter (http:// www.conservative-spirit.org (FV) http://www.jangovan.com/ to Defeat Greer)
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To: floriduh voter

Is George W. Greer endorsed by Jeb Bush and George W. Bush? Or do they NOT get involved in "local matters"?


640 posted on 06/16/2004 3:38:58 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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