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'Gooks' to 'Hajis' (Herbert Barf Alert)
New York Times ^ | 05/21/04 | Bob Herbert

Posted on 05/20/2004 10:12:16 PM PDT by conservative in nyc


May 21, 2004
OP-ED COLUMNIST

'Gooks' to 'Hajis'

By BOB HERBERT

The hapless Jeremy Sivits got the headlines yesterday. A mechanic whose job was to service gasoline-powered generators, Specialist Sivits was sentenced to a year in prison and thrown out of the Army for accepting an invitation to take part in the sadistic treatment of Iraqi detainees at Abu Ghraib prison.

But there's another soldier in serious trouble to whom we should be paying even closer attention. His case doesn't just call into question the treatment of prisoners by U.S. forces. It calls into question this entire abominable war.

Staff Sgt. Camilo Mejia is a 28-year-old member of the Florida National Guard who served six harrowing months in Iraq, went home to Miami on a furlough last October, and then refused to return to his unit when the furlough ended.

Sergeant Mejia has been charged with desertion. His court-martial at Fort Stewart, Ga., began Wednesday, the same day that Specialist Sivits pleaded guilty to the charges against him. If Sergeant Mejia is convicted, he will face a similar punishment, a year in prison and a bad-conduct discharge.

Sergeant Mejia told me in a long telephone interview this week that he had qualms about the war from the beginning but he followed his orders and went to Iraq in April 2003. He led an infantry squad and saw plenty of action. But the more he thought about the war — including the slaughter of Iraqi civilians, the mistreatment of prisoners (which he personally witnessed), the killing of children, the cruel deaths of American G.I.'s (some of whom are the targets of bounty hunters in search of a reported $2,000 per head), the ineptitude of inexperienced, glory-hunting military officers who at times are needlessly putting U.S. troops in even greater danger, and the growing rage among coalition troops against all Iraqis (known derisively as "hajis," the way the Vietnamese were known as "gooks") — the more he thought about these things, the more he felt that this war could not be justified, and that he could no longer be part of it.

Sergeant Mejia's legal defense is complex (among other things, he is seeking conscientious objector status), but his essential point is that war is too terrible to be waged willy-nilly, that there must always be an ethically or morally sound reason for opening the spigots to such horror. And he believes that threshold was never met in Iraq.

"Imagine being in the infantry in Ramadi, like we were," he said, "where you get shot at every day and you get mortared where you live, [and attacked] with R.P.G.'s [rocket-propelled grenades], and people are dying and getting wounded and maimed every day. A lot of horrible things become acceptable."

He spoke about a friend of his, a sniper, who he said had shot a child about 10 years old who was carrying an automatic weapon. "He realized it was a kid," said Sergeant Mejia. "The kid tried to get up. He shot him again."

The child died.

All you really want to do in such an environment, said Sergeant Mejia, is "get out of there alive." So soldiers will do things under that kind of extreme stress that they wouldn't do otherwise.

"You just sort of try to block out the fact that they're human beings and see them as enemies," he said. "You call them hajis, you know? You do all the things that make it easier to deal with killing them and mistreating them."

When there is time later to reflect on what has happened, said Sergeant Mejia, "you come face to face with your emotions and your feelings and you try to tell yourself that you did it for a good reason. And if you don't find it, if you don't believe you did it for a good reason, then, you know, it becomes pretty tough to accept it — to willingly be a part of the war."

A military court will decide whether Sergeant Mejia, who served honorably while he was in Iraq, is a deserter or a conscientious objector or something in between. But the issues he has raised deserve a close reading by the nation as a whole, which is finally beginning to emerge from the fog of deliberate misrepresentations created by Bush, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz et al. about this war.

The truth is the antidote to that crowd. Whatever the outcome of Sergeant Mejia's court-martial, he has made a contribution to the truth about Iraq.  

E-mail: bobherb@nytimes.com

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TOPICS: Editorial; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: deserter; herbert; iraq; sivits; slimes; spin
Fog of deliberate misrepresentations by the Slimes is more like it. If you believe them, nothing good has happened in Iraq. It's like Saddam is still in power really torturing the prisoners in Abu Ghraib just for the heck of it. Uday and Qusay are not dead-ay. Schools aren't being fixed. And democracy is not on the way. All our troops do is "routinely" abuse the "Hajis" by putting underwear on their heads and otherwise humiliating them. And it's all Bush's fault.
1 posted on 05/20/2004 10:12:16 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: conservative in nyc
Sergeant Mejia's legal defense is complex

No, it isn't. He's being tried for desertion. Did he desert or didn't he? Contrary to Mr. Herbert's proclaimation, the Iraq war is not on trial.
2 posted on 05/20/2004 10:41:21 PM PDT by Starter
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To: conservative in nyc

Bob Herbert left a lot of details out about Sgt. Mejia, including the fact that his attorney is saying that since Mejia is a citizen of Costa Rica, he is entitled to leave the military early. From another article on this:

"Mejia's attorney said he should have been exempt because a 19th-century treaty between the United States and Costa Rica exempts Costa Rican citizens from "compulsory service" in the U.S. military."

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1139224/posts

If that's the argument, than Mejia should be deported after serving his time.


3 posted on 05/20/2004 11:42:00 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: conservative in nyc
The truth is the antidote to that crowd. Whatever the outcome of Sergeant Mejia's court-martial, he has made a contribution to the truth about Iraq.

What self-righteous nonsense. Herbert can't even tell the truth about Mejia's case!

4 posted on 05/20/2004 11:42:56 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: NYCVirago
Bob Herbert left a lot of details out about Sgt. Mejia, including the fact that his attorney is saying that since Mejia is a citizen of Costa Rica, he is entitled to leave the military early.

I guess that's what makes his defense so "complex". He's going to claim that some Costa Rican treaty invalidates a signed contract. I guess it will take all of two minutes for the court to dismiss that claim. And then a whole 10 minutes to decide he's a deserter. Yup. Real complex.
5 posted on 05/20/2004 11:51:15 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: conservative in nyc
I guess that's what makes his defense so "complex". He's going to claim that some Costa Rican treaty invalidates a signed contract. I guess it will take all of two minutes for the court to dismiss that claim. And then a whole 10 minutes to decide he's a deserter. Yup. Real complex.

Yep. Oh, there's a few other "complex" things to the defense -- Mejia is now claiming that "he saw Iraqi prisoners treated "with great cruelty" when he was put in charge of processing detainees last May at al-Assad, an Iraqi air base occupied by U.S. forces." It appears that this claim came after the abuse scandal. He also claims that he saw "an Iraqi boy die after confusion over which military doctor should treat him." For some weird reason, these claims are also not in Herbert's column. I guess it must be what makes this case so goshdarned "complex."

6 posted on 05/21/2004 12:36:54 AM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: Starter

You've nailed it. I don't think "Things happened that I didn't like" is much of a defense. On the other hand, General Whats-her-name has skated on the prison abuse scandal so far even though she was the one in charge, so who knows?


7 posted on 05/21/2004 4:58:31 AM PDT by bigcat00
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To: NYCVirago
Mejia's attorney said he should have been exempt because a 19th-century treaty between the United States and Costa Rica exempts Costa Rican citizens from "compulsory service" in the U.S. military

If that's all they're basing on, they'll lose, because his service was not compulsory, ie, Mejia wasn't drafted. Once you make the decision to serve, you do not get a say in where you serve.

They'll beat this guy to death in court using the oath of enlistment.

I'm a former infantryman, and I'll guarantee the rest of the guys in his unit hate the sorry POS for dragging the unit through the mud.

8 posted on 05/21/2004 5:16:23 AM PDT by Terabitten (The bullet the Democrats and the media fired at the President killed Nick Berg.)
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To: Tragically Single

The progression from AWOL to Desertion is automatic under 72 hours and you're AWOL. after 72 hours the clock on thirty days starts ticking. If you fail to "repair" (show up) you're a desterter at midmite on the 30th day.

Normally the military does not go out and hunt troops down they simply issue a federal warrant for desertion and let the civilian system take it from there. Such warrants show on NCIC scans so if you get stopped for running a red lite you may find yourself in cuffs.

When local cops arrest a deserter the simply notify the closest military activity and someone takes charge of the prisoner returning them to military control and possible Court Martial.

In this pike's situtation he was on leave from a combat zone and failed to return when ordered and has been declared a deserter. Pretty cut and dried that he deserted in the face of the enemy regardless of his reasons.

Mext step will be an Article 32 investigation.


9 posted on 05/21/2004 5:35:31 AM PDT by FRMAG
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To: Starter

"Sergeant Mejia's court-martial, he has made a contribution to the truth about Iraq." Sounds like he is suffering from PTKS (post tramatic kerry syndrome) His "truth about Iraq is about as close as kerrys version of 'Nam. His dersertion is what is in question. From his "atrocities" standpoint sounds like he has a job lined up with ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, ETAL.


10 posted on 05/21/2004 5:44:06 AM PDT by Fighter@heart (Anti-troll Mechanism is now activated & scanning all posts!!)
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To: conservative in nyc
that there must always be an ethically or morally sound reason for opening the spigots to such horror. And he believes that threshold was never met in Iraq.

Hey Sarge, you're an E-5, that's not your call. Best of luck in the stockade, with the MPs you're slandering.

11 posted on 05/21/2004 5:58:09 AM PDT by j_tull ("I may make you feel, but I can't make you think.")
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To: FRMAG

Yup. I worked with AWOLs and deserter/DFR's (dropped from rolls) when I was on Sand Hill at Ft. Benning. Our record was a guy who'd been DFR'd for 7 years. He got pulled over for a speeding ticket, and wonder of wonders, three days later, he was at Ft. Benning :)

Thanks for reminding me about the AWOL/desertion timeframe. It's been five years since I outprocessed anybody lol...


12 posted on 05/21/2004 6:44:07 AM PDT by Terabitten (The bullet the Democrats and the media fired at the President killed Nick Berg.)
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To: conservative in nyc

Staff Sgt. Camilo Mejia is a 28-year-old member of the Florida National Guard who served six harrowing months in Iraq, went home to Miami on a furlough last October, and then refused to return to his unit when the furlough ended.

Sergeant Mejia has been charged with desertion. His court-martial at Fort Stewart, Ga., began Wednesday, the same day that Specialist Sivits pleaded guilty to the charges against him. If Sergeant Mejia is convicted, he will face a similar punishment, a year in prison and a bad-conduct discharge.

Yes. And the downside is....what?

He didn't want to go to war? Well who does!
I had a flight chief in Korea who always said "The good news is you don't have to like it, the bad news is you have to do it."


13 posted on 05/21/2004 8:37:28 AM PDT by Valin (Hating people is like burning down your house to kill a rat)
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To: Fighter@heart

PTKS (post tramatic kerry syndrome)

LOL. I LIKE IT!


14 posted on 05/21/2004 8:39:10 AM PDT by Valin (Hating people is like burning down your house to kill a rat)
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To: Starter

What a wuss. If he didn't want to fight he should have stayed the hell out of the military. What did he expect he might be doing some day? Giving slide show presentations to 3rd-graders? His unit is better off with him gone. The troops don't have to worry about their backs anymore.


15 posted on 05/21/2004 9:03:28 AM PDT by ought-six
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To: Tragically Single

"I'm a former infantryman, and I'll guarantee the rest of the guys in his unit hate the sorry POS for dragging the unit through the mud."

Yeah, but they're glad to be rid of him.


16 posted on 05/21/2004 9:06:05 AM PDT by ought-six
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To: Tragically Single
If that's all they're basing on, they'll lose, because his service was not compulsory, ie, Mejia wasn't drafted. Once you make the decision to serve, you do not get a say in where you serve.

Yep. And he just got found guilty. Since he's a citizen of Costa Rica and all, I hope that the government sends him back there after serving his time.

17 posted on 05/21/2004 10:50:26 AM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: NYCVirago
And he just got found guilty.

Hey, PRIVATE Mejia... enjoy turning BFRs into LFRs at Leavenworth. (I haven't heard what his sentence was, but I'll wager it includes reduction in rank to E-1.)

18 posted on 05/21/2004 12:13:21 PM PDT by Terabitten (The bullet the Democrats and the media fired at the President killed Nick Berg.)
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