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Static Blamed for Burning Car In Utah
Deseret Morning News ^ | Amy Choate

Posted on 05/20/2004 2:54:49 PM PDT by skyman

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1 posted on 05/20/2004 2:54:51 PM PDT by skyman
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This type of thing is the source of the "Explosive Cell Phone" urban legend.


2 posted on 05/20/2004 2:56:44 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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Sounds like this woman and her son got off pretty well considering.


3 posted on 05/20/2004 2:58:31 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Never again trust Democrats with national security!)
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Isn't a Trooper an SUV. If so, it probably spontaneously combusted. It had to be behind it somehow.


4 posted on 05/20/2004 3:00:10 PM PDT by Always Right
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Some enterprising lawyer will figure out how to sue this woman for negligence....
5 posted on 05/20/2004 3:02:38 PM PDT by freebilly (Vote Kerry-- 1 Billion Muslims Can't Be Wrong....)
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To: skyman

Definitely not a cell phone caused explosion.

That's impossible!


6 posted on 05/20/2004 3:04:19 PM PDT by rogueleader
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To: skyman

This is the reason I have leather seats.


7 posted on 05/20/2004 3:07:10 PM PDT by old3030 (Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped -- Elbert Hubbard)
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To: skyman

If you think gasoline is explosive, just wait until you try filling up with hydrogen!


8 posted on 05/20/2004 3:10:58 PM PDT by Siegfried
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To: glock rocks; Pete-R-Bilt

Remind me not to buy gas when I come by for BBQ this weekend.


BTW..."Regular" is selling for 2.39.9 in Eureka today


9 posted on 05/20/2004 3:12:03 PM PDT by tubebender
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To: old3030
This is the reason I have leather seats.

Doesn't matter. I've got leather in my wife's PT Cruiser and it generates as much static as my cloth seats.

It's the "static charge" load that is built up in the car itself driving down the road. You recharge yourself everytime you climb into the car.

Rule #1 - Never climb back into the car while pumping gas.
Rule #2 - If you "have to" get back in the car, be sure to touch the body of the car, or other metal object before grabbing the pump nozzle.

10 posted on 05/20/2004 3:13:14 PM PDT by Johnny Gage (God Bless our Firefighters, our Police, our EMS responders, and our Veterans)
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To: skyman

One of those Utah things maybe?


11 posted on 05/20/2004 3:13:53 PM PDT by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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That's when she saw a spark leap from her hand to the nozzle, igniting the fumes.

Wearing silk panties? Chip manufacturers and vendors won't let women wear such things.

On the other hand, the overall story sounds a little fishy to this electromagnetics engineer.

12 posted on 05/20/2004 3:16:50 PM PDT by bcoffey (Sen. Kerry: I'm not questioning your service; I'm questioning your sanity!)
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Some enterprising lawyer will figure out how to sue this woman for negligence....

Nah, the woman doesn't have the deep pockets. The gas station does, however, especially if it is a major oil company chain.

The problem arises when you go to reach for the nozzle while filling. There are gas fumes mixed with air flowing out of the tank filler neck as gas goes into the tank. Sometimes when the light is right you can see the vapors. The static electricity spark is just like the spark plug in your car and....WHOOM!

In Kalifornia, they have a state law requiring all gasoline pumps to have a vapor recovery system installed. You may have seen them in the movies. It looks like there is a vacuum hose fitted over the nozzle of the gas pump. When the pump is in the filler neck, the outter hose sucks the fumes harmlessly into a recovery system.

This vapor recovery system is mandated in Kalifornia because of the air pollution that the raw gas escaping into the atmosphere causes, but a side benefit is that there are no stray vapors around the filler neck to explode if there is a static discharge.

Now the enterprising lawyer will sue the gas station owner and the oil company, claiming that they had the technology to prevent this tragedy, but for the cost of a few pennies decided not to voluntarily install vapor recovery systems in ALL of their stations nationwide.

I hate lawyers.

13 posted on 05/20/2004 3:28:42 PM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: rogueleader
Definitely not a cell phone caused explosion. That's impossible!

You finally got it right after having it explained to you on the other thread.

14 posted on 05/20/2004 3:52:42 PM PDT by cinFLA
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On the other hand, the overall story sounds a little fishy to this electromagnetics engineer.

Overall? That static can cause a gasoline explosion?

15 posted on 05/20/2004 4:02:18 PM PDT by cinFLA
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To: skyman

Check out some video of this rescue. Notice the cop standing as far away from the burning car as possible clutching his gun... getting ready to shoot the fire out if necessary. You can see another motorist spraying the car with fire extinguishers and then later breaking the window with one to get the kid out. The motorist cut his hand breaking the window and ended up getting stiches....

http://www.4utah.com/video_promos/videoplay2.aspx?idO53FEEA-D3D7-4B0D-9790-4E31C27F507A&typeÉdeo


16 posted on 05/20/2004 4:02:39 PM PDT by zonealarm
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And, get some anti-static spray from the grocery and use it on your seats. My last truck had fabric seats and I got tired of being shocked every time I got out in the winter. The stuff works great. Anyway, when you are fueling you should always stay with the nozzle just in case it slips out.


17 posted on 05/20/2004 4:04:00 PM PDT by fuzzycat
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Now the enterprising lawyer will sue the gas station owner and the oil company, claiming that they had the technology to prevent this tragedy, but for the cost of a few pennies decided not to voluntarily install vapor recovery systems in ALL of their stations nationwide.

I admit I was wrong. This is the way it'll play out....

18 posted on 05/20/2004 4:16:22 PM PDT by freebilly (Vote Kerry-- 1 Billion Muslims Can't Be Wrong....)
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To: Johnny Gage

Could this be one of those strange reasons we are not allowed (by law) to pump our own gas in Oregon?


19 posted on 05/20/2004 4:26:21 PM PDT by momfirst
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To: skyman

Plastic gas cans sliding around in a plastic lined pick up bed generate static electricity as well
containing higly explosive fumes...

Never fill them in the bed of the truck..put them on the ground..

Ground the nozzle befor fueling...never get back in the vehicle once you begin fueling..

Hot dry summer days...you get fumes (highly explosive) and static electricity...

imo


20 posted on 05/20/2004 4:32:23 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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