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To: TaxRelief

All teachers who knowingly allowed students to watch that video should be fired! I'm tired of seeing the recent Caligula-like fascination with death on the part of a bunch of civilians and REMFs.

Death simply stinks, and the dead are no more than objects.

Most people in our nation (especially conservatives) have no passionate fascination with torture or death. We are better than that. ...any teacher allows my kids to watch that video, he/she will be fired.


8 posted on 05/20/2004 1:02:54 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: familyop
All teachers who knowingly allowed students to watch that video should be fired!

Nothing wrong with showing it. I think it could reasonably shows to high school students, with parents' permission. This wasn't a planned occurrence, so I think two days' suspension is more than enough.

High school is certainly old enough to start coming to grips with man's inhumanity to man.

19 posted on 05/20/2004 1:28:34 PM PDT by JohnnyZ (It's a nice day for a white wedding)
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To: familyop
Most people in our nation (especially conservatives) have no passionate fascination with torture or death. We are better than that. ...any teacher allows my kids to watch that video, he/she will be fired.

If you ever pull your head out of the ground, be sure to clean the sand out of your ears.

Viewing that video has nothing to do with fascination. It has everything to do with facing up to the gut wrenching reality of the war we are in and the depravity of out enemy. Images of people jumping out of the Trade Center, charred bodies hung from bridges or the head of an American being sawed off with a dull knife may offend your delicate sensibilities, but they should be burned into the brains of every citizen of the U.S. because that is what our enemies intend for us.

We are in a war. A war that will last for many years to come and that will require the commitment of our young people to execute successfully. Our enemy starts forging their hatred in the hearts and minds of their youth, small children in fact. If we are to stand against this enemy our youth must know and understand the reality of the world they will face if they are not strong and resolute in the face of that enemy.

9/11 was the most horrific event that has ever occurred in my 50+ years of lifetime. Every day I encounter people for whom that day has become a mere symbol which pales in comparison to their daily worries. These are the people who viewed 9/11 (The Sanitary Version). They saw clouds of smoke, lifeless building crumbling, people crying, speeches and stately funerals. The people I run into who saw video of the bodies falling, heard the sound of them hitting the ground, saw images of the body parts recovered and other gruesome images that are deemed to "gross" for general consumption understand the intensity of the war and there is nothing more important to them than winning that war.

So go ahead and hide your head in the sand, but you had better hope there are enough of your fellow citizens, including our youth, who understand what is going on and are able to face up to it. They are the only thing standing between you and a "Real Experience" of reality.

20 posted on 05/20/2004 1:44:19 PM PDT by CMAC51
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To: familyop
All teachers who knowingly allowed students to watch that video should be fired!

Big mouth. Come and tell me that to my face. You don't have the nerve.

37 posted on 05/20/2004 3:00:00 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: familyop
We are better than that. ...any teacher allows my kids to watch that video, he/she will be fired.

So, which school officials answer to YOU? Who made you judge, jury and executioner? WILL BE fired? Now, that's interesting. Which school board member's spouse are YOU sleeping with?

40 posted on 05/20/2004 3:10:59 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: familyop

We are engaged with an enemy that has such fascination with death, and not just for us, but for themselves.

The video, to my way of thinking, is an ESSENTIAL tool for helping overly comfortable civilians and too-far-removed politicians grasp the mindset of the enemy.

Parents like you are part of the problem, and I submit to you that we can spend all the money we want, but until we address the fact that parents are generally less educated than their kids are these days, we aren't going to be fixing education any time soon.

Placed in the proper context, the video, or even just the audio, will do what Time, Newsweek, the NY Times and the alphabet networks are trying so hard to undo - galvanize the country against an enemy that means to kill us in the most gruesome possible ways on our own soil.

I don't think you'd feel the way you do if you lost your little bundle of joy to a batch of tainted water at school one day, or a dirty bomb, or a VX rocket, or some other such act of Islamic love. I think you'd want everyone to know what we are up against.


84 posted on 05/21/2004 6:49:15 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs (Only those who dare truly live - CGA 88 Class Motto)
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