Posted on 05/19/2004 9:36:50 PM PDT by F14 Pilot
Security is a neat production of Democracy and Pluralism.
Ping. Tong would understand...
I found that curious and wondered what your reaction to his thesis might be.
Malaysia, Turkey, Lebanon and Bahrain are Semi-democratic nations!
Yeah! But we can help Islamic countries (Or Any Un-Democratic Nation) become democratic and free. We can help the democratization of the world. It is a long boring process but it secures us very well.
We take it they have never heard of "Constitutional Republic" either. Neither have the Democrats or the U.S. media apparently - which is a little odd considering that is the actual constitutional form of U.S. government.
to those who subscribe to moral equivalence and ostrich-like devotion to PC, yes: it IS news.
You would not believe the arguments I have had over this very topic.
Late PING!
I dont get what you mean.
sorry, I didn't mean you, I meant whoever thinks that.
I have to agree with the writer on his points regarding democracies. By them-selves they are unworkable. They can only work when there is a consensus in the hearts of the peoples as to what is moral, what is right and wrong, and what is decent
One might argue that the first truly libertarian democracy was the Garden of Eden. There was an agreement as to what God's law was and how the founding couple should live with one another. The only real law they had was that they were not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. The had access to the tree of life up to that point.
It was only when the serpent entered into the garden and began arguing what IS IS, that confusion and doubt and the appeal to vanity and ego did its dirty work. Loss of consensus, an attempt to reunify(Adam eating the fruit that Eve gave her), and finally the loss of God's favor and banishment.(Loss of community, enslavement to harsher living conditions and a more primitive existence, and further bloodshed and violence, ie. Cain slaying Abel, the need for animal sacrifice to cover sin, ect)
You see this pattern at work with the attempted unraveling of the idea of marriage and family, (indeed our whole judeo-christian heritage in our country) to the tune of smoothed toungued platitudes regarding alternate families, tolerance, and the blasphemous demeaning of Christianity. We have become confused as to what is really right and wrong and the "naked" weaknesses of our loss of faith have left our country exposed to judgment and destruction.
We try to be tolerant of those who hate God's laws by reminding our selves of the constitution and of the freedoms we have of religion. The irony is that those who are Godless have decreed the Godly have no rights of their own religions. These ungodly have again accepted the canard that they can be God and to never submit to any authority but their own. This has created a disunified nation. In the attempt to reunify, the more righteous among us play tolerance games with these wicked folk. These evil ones keep demanding more concessions from the godly in the name of civil unity and tolerance and we comply fearing the loss of country and community. Our nakedness is now exposed to the nations and the very country we are trying to keep, we shall soon lose. Islam may very well be what fills the vacuum. Or, in response to the Islamic threat a new Roman despotic paganism may arise,devoid of real conscience, infected and empowered by Satan himself. Should this occur while America is still strong militarily, the results may be tragic for the entire world.(Imagine ancient Rome with dictators armed with nuclear weapons and lasers)
Islam and its practitioners see the vacuum that has been created in our society. In some ways the religion is reminiscent of the old Mount Sinai religion of the Mosaic code, filled with blood, fire and smoke, and judgment by stoning and the sword.
The book of Hebrews descibes the condition of Christians as having not arrived at Mount Sinai,(where there is smoke and gloom, and laws written on stone), but Mount Zion where there is grace, love and forgiveness and the laws of God are written on Hearts of flesh(The literal inworking of the Holy Spirit into our basic instictual drives and personalities, the daily renewal of our inner man).
Our forefathers had hoped for a Mount Zion society, based on the consensus of free men who were in agreement with what was basically good and evil. They knew that men were sinful and imperfect, but the hope was that as long as men strove to keep "religion and morality"(as Washington admonished) as their highest goal, that our freedoms would remain intact.
Now we are a nation split down the middle culturally and spiritually. Only Jesus Christ can re-unify us and put flesh and sinew on our dried bones and fill us with his spirit.
Islam worships "Allah" not God.
Allah means God in Arabic!
" Islam Is Incompatible With Democracy
No shiite, Sherlock!
If they need to be converted to something, why not Buddhism? The world would be more peaceful if everyone followed Buddhist principles.
I don't think the arm would be bared on the Statue of Liberty either.
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