DEMOCRACY ACCORDING TO ISLAMOFACISTS
Posted on 05/19/2004 9:36:50 PM PDT by F14 Pilot
And this is news?
PINGY!
not News but something we have to talk and think about!
Amir Taheri is himself a Shia Muslim, also a brilliant journalist, die-hard conservative, and strong supporter of the war on terror.
Great post. Very informative.
He makes a few errors like saying Christianity is not monotheistic, but those errors are small in number.
Good read. Thanks for posting this.
Taheri made the point often by Muslims that their religion is "truly" monotheistic.
Technically, he has a point. From the Muslim point of view, shared, I might add by some western, i.e. Christian thinkers, the the Christian concept of the trinity makes Christian monotheism less "pure" than the radical monotheism of Islam.
I am not taking sides in this debate of a theological principle that I really don't care about one way or the other. I'm only pointing out what Taheri was getting at.
Good Pic!
He, of course, misses the point. His point that men must be obedient to God gets conflated with the idea of submitting to the will of the man with the biggest gun.
America's founders believed that obedience to God meant putting limits on the rule of men, and establishing personal space beyond the reach of politics so that men could better serve God. They believed that while men owed obedience to God, that no single man could speak for God, that men must discern his will each in his own life, which made personal liberty an absolute requirement.
So this is the difference. Not the belief in God, not the belief in obedience, but rather the belief among muslims that obedience to God means slavery to whichever human is strong enough to demand it; whereas among Americans obedience to God means liberty from arbitrary rule of men.
Forget trying to democratize Iraq. We should just put in a dictator-strong-man who will rule with an iron hand, except we have to make sure he is "our" dictator - someone who is sympathetic to the West and western culture and who wants to bring the Iraqi's into the 21st century.
Islam is a gutter religion, based upon a false prophet and self-serving, mysogynist "teachings". If it wasn't imposed upon people by force, this sham would have died out centuries ago.
"Depriving Islam of critical scrutiny is bad for Islam and Muslims, and ultimately dangerous for the whole world."
Taheri's analysis is fine up to this point, and then it runs right off the road.
"The debate is about how to organise the global public space that is shared by the whole humanity. That space must be religion-neutral and free of ideology, which means organised on the basis of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights."
What is it about every reformist poseur in the world that makes them want to worship the UDHR! Screw Islamofacism and the UDHR in equal measure.
Still an interesting read, F14...
"In the past 14 centuries Muslims have, on occasions, succeeded in creating successful societies without democracy"
Name one that has survived and brought anything good into the world. That base fact is Islam is incompatible with free humanity.
Food for thought.
Yes, but on the flip side, there is definitely a segment of Christians, even here, who feel that Muslims can never be equal to them. In some ways not much different than the Islamic argument (setting aside for the moment how the groups project out such views into action or restraint.)
You mean someone like Saddam in the 1980's? Well, you support the idea of the tyrannical rulers!
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