Posted on 05/19/2004 8:48:55 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
Exactly. THIS is why we must stand up for free speech and assembly no matter what our opinions of the protesters or what they are protesting.
If we do otherwise, we will be beat over the head with the same stick we handed the government.
I said no such thing, I merely pointed out the possibility that there is an inherent difference in a bunch of parading pansies and the Commander and Chief of the U.S. in a time of war. You seem unable to make distinctions even in the most obvious instances.
Niether thick nor obfuscating, but actually familiar with the law and how it's enforced. They should have requested a permit to hold a counter protest, they didn't, they held a counter protest anyway, hopefully they'll treat this as a learning experience. It's no different than seperating neo-nazis and anti-nazi protesters. Problem here is people can't look beyond their own opinion, just because you agree with the guys doesn't mean they handled the situation correctly.
The only troll here is you.
What do you call a Queer who has blown his cover.?
Ans: the boyfriend of the Police Chief..
These should be the people we target for defeat in the next election. It's much easier to defeat an incumbent senator-though this task is extremely difficult-than to pass constitutional amendments after each horrible court decision.
We need to emulate the example set by Pat Toomy, who would have unseated that pre-Cambrian fossil, Arlen Specter, had his paid staff been as efficient as the numerous conservative volunteers for his campaign.
How exactly does "In time of war" explain the well documented fact that el presidente (and many before him) didn't allow protesters near him before 9-11? Please be specific.
And I'm curious, exactly how does who these people date affect free speech and assembly?
If you need a permit to exercise a right, it is no longer a right but a privilege.
That day is coming fast now.
By getting a permit you also get police protection from the types of people that hget upset about crosses. There's give and take in the real world Freeeee, it's about time you learned it.
Quit trying to demonstrate an equivalence where there is none.
I can almost bet that when this story gets out that there will be serious repercussions over it.
Kinda like that lawsuit when a man sued AT&T broadband and won a $150,000 settlement recently awarded by a federal judge all because he wouldn't sign a form that apparently required him to "value" homosexuality.
Isn't that just special.
Trading freedom for security. Now there's a great American tradition.
There's give and take in the real world
That is incompatible with unalienable rights, and an invitation to incrementalism.
INTREP - SECULARIZATION OF AMERICA ALERT!
How, exactly, do you get a permit when "They wanted to go down to protest and we [police] told them they couldn't"?
This is an outrage!
More of our Heros In Blue, doing their job by enforcing the law.
I am well aware that Clinton and Bush I had no respect for free speech and assembly as well. In fact I vividly recall the great wailing and screaming when Clinton did the same exact thing to FReepers.
Presidents have had, do have and will have extraordinary security measures undertaken for their protection.
I see you're still clinging to the absurd notion that the removal of protesters had anything to do with safety or security.
So maybe you can answer this question:
There are two people in the crowd watching the presidential motorcade drive by. One is wearing a Bush t-shirt and appluading. The other is wearing a "NO WAR FOR OIL" t-shirt and chanting "no more years". Neither individual has given any indication of malicious intent. They're simply standing there watching and speaking their mind.
As it stands, and not only in the case in this article, the dissenter will be threatened with arrest if he doesn't move to a "free speech zone", the supporter is left be.
Exactly what safety or security threat does the does the dissenter pose that the supporters in the picture below do not? Please be specific.
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