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To: Tailgunner Joe
We are under attack from a fanatic internationalist group, who may draw their inspiration and motive from their religious beliefs, but are distinguished by several significant characteristics, that are extremely relevant:

1. They do not respect borders, governments or the ethnic integrity of peoples, even of their own faith.

2. They do not respect other peoples cultural differences.

3. They do not have the means to manufacture the armaments to equip armies, but must buy or steal materials produced by others.

You quote Roosevelt as to the Nazi onslaught against traditional religion, and suggest that as an argument for your own proposed onslaught against Islam? Why would you want to broaden the war to include the legitimate Islamic Governments--the original target of Bin Laden?

It sounds like you have an agenda not unlike that of which Roosevelt accused the Nazis. Why? You do not compromise your Christianity by limiting your war to the actual enemy--those actually attacking us. You do not help that war effort, by antagonizing a larger and larger segment of the population of the earth.

It is, of course, ridiculous to compare Bin Laden as an adversary to Hitler or Stalin. Those men had the means to produce--not buy or steal--to produce, and invent very advanced systems to be produced on a large scale. They had the capacity to do to us what neither Bin Laden nor those cheering him on, could ever hope to do. Do you understand the technological gap between us and this foe? Yes, they made an effective use of three of four hi-jacked planes. It was certainly a wake up call. But we are basically at war with an anarchist force. This is not Armageddonen, which was limited, I believe to peoples in the Near East and Asia Minor, anyway; and it certainly is not World War III.

William Flax [The War On Terror]

685 posted on 05/24/2004 4:13:01 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Ohioan
They do not respect borders, governments or the ethnic integrity of peoples, even of their own faith.

The only nation whose borders I am charged with protecting is my own. Any nation which threatens the US might as well kiss its borders goodbye.

"ethnic integrity of peoples"? This is another thing I am not concerned with. If certain "peoples" want to retain their "ethnic integrity," that's up to them.

They do not respect other peoples cultural differences.

I do not subscribe to the doctrine of multiculturalism, diversity and cultural relativism. I champion my own culture, and I insist that my own religion is the only true one.

Why would you want to broaden the war to include the legitimate Islamic Governments

I do not want to overthrow every Islamic nation on Earth, but I do not consider the Socialist government of Syria nor the Islamofascist government of Iran to be legitimate. They are our enemies and should be destroyed.

686 posted on 05/24/2004 4:34:46 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Ohioan
It is, of course, ridiculous to compare Bin Laden as an adversary to Hitler or Stalin. Those men had the means to produce--not buy or steal--to produce, and invent very advanced systems to be produced on a large scale.

The consequences to the national security of the United States (which is what I, and the various other people you attack, are concerned with) whether he produces them himself, obtains them from others, or conjures up a genie to create them out of nothing. This is relevant only insofar as it affects the stategies to be used to choke off his potential supply.

If anything, making the point that al-Qaeda is dependent upon external support is to echo the original argument for the Second Gulf War. Having described al-Qaeda as only an arm of a greater enemy, you leave yourself with only the recourse of questioning the inferred fact situation behind the decision (i.e. was Iraq, in fact, a current or likely future source of such support?.

689 posted on 05/25/2004 6:14:19 AM PDT by steve-b
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