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To: ninenot; tpaine
"LC needs his meds. "

Nope.

"AP made a statement of fact. The Constitution certainly does not proscribe religion. This country's population is majority Protestant, by far. And the Founders were the same."

Do you have reading comprehension problems? Well, perhaps I shouldn't ask, as you seem not to notice the anti-Semitism and anti-Americanism of your Leader, Patsy.

I never said that the Constitution proscribes religion. It DOES, however, proscribe an establishment of religion, i.e., a "religion of the state", or an "official" religion.

With that as a beginning, it just does not matter what religion the Founders, or even a majority of Americans are...it STILL nonetheless cannot be incorporated into law.

When you loudly proclaim America to be a "Christian Nation", that is what you are fantasizing, and it is what most people understand you to mean. One MORE reason why Pat and his marks (and, for that matter, such other lunatics such as Pat Robertson) cannot get enough votes to wipe their noses with.

Sane people understand that using phrases such as that, and twisting the meaning of the First Amendment, will do nothing but drive away and offend people of other religions, and, of course, those who choose not to belong to any religion, as is their right.

It (The "Christian Nation") IS a myth...as far as the Constitution goes. It is based upon the supposed religious convictions of the Founders, which themselves are under disagreement, not by anything that they actually wrote into our Founding Documents. The First, in fact, makes it clear that establishing ANY religion as "America's" was the OPPOSITE of what they intended.

Poor try at spinning, there, if it indeed was not a result of a poor reading.

592 posted on 05/20/2004 5:11:01 PM PDT by Long Cut ("Fightin's commenced, Ike, now get to fightin' or get outta the way!"...Wyatt Earp, in Tombstone)
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593 posted on 05/20/2004 5:13:17 PM PDT by Long Cut ("Fightin's commenced, Ike, now get to fightin' or get outta the way!"...Wyatt Earp, in Tombstone)
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To: Long Cut
It is based upon the supposed religious convictions of the Founders,

Unnamed sources close to the Founding Fathers are reporting that the overwhelming majority of of them do not identify with the Moslems, Buddhists, Secular Humanists, Homosexuals, Socialists, or Atheists.

603 posted on 05/20/2004 7:43:21 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: Long Cut
It (The "Christian Nation") IS a myth...as far as the Constitution goes. It is based upon the supposed religious convictions of the Founders, which themselves are under disagreement, not by anything that they actually wrote into our Founding Documents. The First, in fact, makes it clear that establishing ANY religion as "America's" was the OPPOSITE of what they intended.

For heaven's sake read and BEGIN your enlightenment.

DID YOU KNOW? As you walk up the steps to the building which houses the U.S. Supreme Court you can see near the top of the building a row of the world's law givers and each one is facing one in the middle who is facing forward with a full frontal view - it is Moses and he is holding the Ten Commandments!

DID YOU KNOW? As you enter the Supreme Court courtroom, the two huge oak doors have the Ten Commandments engraved on each lower portion of each door.

DID YOU KNOW? There are Bible verses etched in stone all over the Federal Buildings and Monuments in Washington, D.C.

DID YOU KNOW? James Madison, the fourth president, known as "The Father of Our Constitution" made the following statement "We have staked the whole of all our political institutions upon the capacity of mankind for self-government, upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God."

DID YOU KNOW? Patrick Henry, that patriot and Founding Father of our country said, "It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded not by religionists but by Christians, not on religions but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ".

DID YOU KNOW? Every session of Congress begins with a prayer by a paid preacher, whose salary has been paid by the taxpayer since 1777.

YOU KNOW? Fifty-two of the 55 founders of the Constitution were members of the established orthodox churches in the colonies.

DID YOU KNOW? Thomas Jefferson worried that the Courts would overstep their authority and instead of interpreting the law would begin making law....an oligarchy....the rule of few over many.

DID YOU KNOW? The very first Supreme Court Justice, John Jay, said, "Americans should select and prefer Christians as their rulers."

How, then, have we gotten to the point that everything we have done for 220 years in this country is now suddenly wrong and unconstitutional?

And you throw terms around like "lunatic". Shame.

660 posted on 05/23/2004 6:27:44 PM PDT by iconoclast
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