PERSONAL ATTACKS ON BUCHANAN
'When flak gets heavy you know you are on target.' [bomber pilot]
Posted on 05/19/2004 2:54:18 AM PDT by Theodore R.
What do we offer the world?
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted: May 19, 2004 1:00 a.m. Eastern
"So, how do we advance the cause of female emancipation in the Muslim world?" asks Richard Perle in "An End to Evil." He replies, "We need to remind the women of Islam ceaselessly: Our enemies are the same as theirs; our victory will be theirs as well."
Well, the neoconservative cause "of female emancipation in the Muslim world" was probably set back a bit by the photo shoot of Pfc. Lynndie England and the "Girls Gone Wild" of Abu Ghraib prison.
Indeed, the filmed orgies among U.S. military police outside the cells of Iraqi prisoners, the S&M humiliation of Muslim men, the sexual torment of their women raise a question. Exactly what are the "values" the West has to teach the Islamic world?
"This war ... is about – deeply about – sex," declaims neocon Charles Krauthammer. Militant Islam is "threatened by the West because of our twin doctrines of equality and sexual liberation."
But whose "twin doctrines" is Krauthammer talking about? The sexual liberation he calls our doctrine belongs to a '60s revolution that devout Christians, Jews and Muslims have been resisting for years.
What does Krauthammer mean by sexual liberation? The right of "tweeners" and teenage girls to dress and behave like Britney Spears? Their right to condoms in junior high? Their right to abortion without parental consent?
If conservatives reject the "equality" preached by Gloria Steinem, Betty Friedan, NARAL and the National Organization for Women, why seek to impose it on the Islamic world? Why not stand beside Islam, and against Hollywood and Hillary?
In June 2002 at West Point, President Bush said, "Moral truth is the same in every culture, in every time and in every place."
But even John Kerry does not agree with George Bush on the morality of homosexual unions and stem-cell research. On such issues, conservative Americans have more in common with devout Muslims than with liberal Democrats.
The president notwithstanding, Americans no longer agree on what is moral truth. For as someone said a few years back, there is a cultural war going on in this country – a religious war. It is about who we are, what we believe and what we stand for as a people.
What some of us view as the moral descent of a great and Godly republic into imperial decadence, neocons see as their big chance to rule the world.
In Georgia, recently, the president declared to great applause: "I can't tell you how proud I am of our commitment to values. ... That commitment to values is going to be an integral part of our foreign policy as we move forward. These aren't American values, these are universal values. Values that speak universal truths."
But what universal values is he talking about? If he intends to impose the values of MTV America on the Muslim world in the name of a "world democratic revolution," he will provoke and incite a war of civilizations America cannot win because Americans do not want to fight it. This may be the neocons' war. It is not our war.
When Bush speaks of freedom as God's gift to humanity, does he mean the First Amendment freedom of Larry Flynt to produce pornography and of Salman Rushdie to publish "The Satanic Verses" – a book considered blasphemous to the Islamic faith? If the Islamic world rejects this notion of freedom, why is it our duty to change their thinking? Why are they wrong?
When the president speaks of freedom, does he mean the First Amendment prohibition against our children reading the Bible and being taught the Ten Commandments in school?
If the president wishes to fight a moral crusade, he should know the enemy is inside the gates. The great moral and cultural threats to our civilization come not from outside America, but from within. We have met the enemy, and he is us. The war for the soul of America is not going to be lost or won in Fallujah.
Unfortunately, Pagan America of 2004 has far less to offer the world in cultural fare than did Christian America of 1954. Many of the movies, books, magazines, TV shows, videos and much of the music we export to the world are as poisonous as the narcotics the Royal Navy forced on the Chinese people in the Opium Wars.
A society that accepts the killing of a third of its babies as women's "emancipation," that considers homosexual marriage to be social progress, that hands out contraceptives to 13-year-old girls at junior high ought to be seeking out a confessional – better yet, an exorcist – rather than striding into a pulpit like Elmer Gantry to lecture mankind on the superiority of "American values."
Not just a lack of discipline in the school system. There was no school discipline back in my day, when the "ments" were setting kids' hair on fire on the bus. But apparently they, like everyone else, hadn't even imagined BJs on the bus.
PERSONAL ATTACKS ON BUCHANAN
'When flak gets heavy you know you are on target.' [bomber pilot]
It doesn't. The problem is that if the US government gives a damn about Iraqis, that means they are going to send 140K troops to Iraq. I personally cared about Iraqis in Saddam Iraq. I care about the poor in the world and in this country. Some guy, though, told me that the poor you have with you always. You can care about the unfortunate, but you have to care more about bigger things-- prioritize-- (in his case, he meant about himself)-- the soundness of spending blood and treasure for a mission unlikely to succeed (and probably one that will make things worse).
I don't believe we have lost the moral high ground when it comes to blowing up innocents on a bus. Our culture, even with Britany doing her worst dance, or victoria secrets holding a "fashion show" is lilly white in compairson.
The degradation of our culture is a source of national shame however, and swinging to the right will help. (The pendulum has been swinging but the left is fighting for their collective lives and making it a battle.) The problem here at home is that we are (IMO) irreconcilably split into the multicultural left and the conservative right. I see us coming together only to fight this enemy, because they represent pure evil.
If you had been on the bus, and some guy pushed a girl's head in his lap, that bus would have stopped and both participants (if she was willing) would have been warned by the bus driver, or maybe even kicked off if it was not the first offense.
This has obviously been let to get out of hand. If people had been disciplined (i.e. refused bus privilages or been suspended), this could have been taken care of. The change is not in man's capacity to act immorally, it is in our reluctance to enforce discipline.
You cannot legislate morality, but you can punish unacceptable behavior.
Or to spend billions of our tax dollars attempting to make them a shinning pillar of democracy.
As we know, Ole Pat would put a pro-abortion, pro gay marriage, pro welfare, pro Farrakhan marxist in the White House to increase his power base, as long as they agreed on Jews, of course.
America First, Christian Values all that falls by the wayside, but no matter, the brigadiers fall in lockstep.
LOL! My thoughts....
Yeah, that Pat, he's just a crazy nut...
After we just killed 40 Iraqis at a wedding party:
"This was a wedding and the (U.S.) planes came and attacked the people at a house. Is this the democracy and freedom that (President) Bush has brought us?" said a man on the videotape, Dahham Harraj. "There was no reason."
How many supported him BEFORE he wrote statements like these?
Never let facts get in the way of an anti-Buchanan diatribe. Lenora Fulani (the lady pictured in your post) was not Pat's running mate. In fact, she walked out of the Reform Party convention that nominated Buchanan.
Pat, that evil racist and sexist, did pick a black woman as his running mate. But that black woman, Ezola Foster, was a good pro-life, small government conservative.
After we just killed 40 Iraqis at a wedding party:
"This was a wedding and the (U.S.) planes came and attacked the people at a house. Is this the democracy and freedom that (President) Bush has brought us?" said a man on the videotape, Dahham Harraj. "There was no reason."
Whew GSC, running with the liberal media talking points.
You all are getting very desparate, IMO. Oh BTW, at your next cocktail party that is attended by Michael Moore, just make sure your "petit for" is on the plate when you talk to him.
It will be gone if you don't keep your eye on it.
And you know this how?
Also, when Jenna and Barbara visited wounded troops recently, they wore dresses that Muslims, Orthodox Jews, and even some Christians would find "immoral".
BS.
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Obviously, since I agree with millenia of Christian tradition that sex outside of marriage is immoral. I have yet to reach the enlightenment of you or Bill Clinton.
>>>>>I guess that you will be moving to ________ then, since the majority of us do not want to team up with the immoral culture of Islam to fight the immoral American culture.<<<<<<
I'm not moving because I haven't given up the fight for America. That fight interests me far more than the fight over Fallujah. Some of us remember a better country than the one we have today, one where you could turn on the TV or go to the movies or listen to the radio without encountering incessant violence, sex, and profanity. And we'd like that country back.
No kidding? Somebody better tell Jim Robinson then.
But if they did not fall to ankle length, and their arms not covered down to the wrist (forearm for some), then yes, some Orthodox Jews might have not approved.
It's impossible to rebut a contradictory statement.
If you think you know what his point is, rephrase it, and I'll reply to it if I have time.
So "morality" = "sex", right?
Do you really think there is not sex outside of marriage in Islamic countries? There is plenty of immoral sexual behavior all over the Islamic world.
But, hey, since Pat Buchanan said that Islam will keep us moral (i.e. will ban Brittney Spears videos), it must be true.
After all, before television, movies, and radio, there was not extra-marital sex in America, right?
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