RESISTANCE IS FUTILE
YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED
not looking at women in which they are not married to
Posted on 05/18/2004 11:54:46 PM PDT by JohnHuang2
A British Muslim convert characterized an alleged mission to bomb the Israeli embassy in Australia as his obligation to Allah to perform jihad, his son told a court yesterday.
The alleged al-Qaida recruit, Jack Roche, 50, made the comment in a letter sent in 2000 from Afghanistan, where prosecutors say he met with al-Qaida leaders to hatch the plot, reported the Scotsman newspaper.
Roche wrote in the letter, read by his son Jens Holland, 24: "There are always doubts ... but as Muslims we are obligated to perform jihad to uphold the laws of Allah, the truth on his earth."
Holland testified in Perth District Court on the second day of his father's trial, the Scottish paper said.
"The disbelievers are now out of control, and believe their ways – ways based on inequality, arrogance, etc. – are right," Roche wrote. "I hate them for that."
The plan was to bomb the embassy in Canberra to bring attention to the Palestinians, but it never was carried out.
Roche faces up to 25 years in prison if convicted for conspiring to damage the embassy and harm diplomatic staff.
Holland said after his father returned from 10 days in an al-Qaida camp in Afghanistan, he joined him on trips to survey targets in Canberra and Sydney, the Scotsman reported.
He may have a point...
http://www.hti.umich.edu/k/koran/browse.html
A few excerpts from the Quran/Koran:
[2.193] And fight with them until there is no persecution, and religion should be only for Allah
[4.89] They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.
[4.95] The holders back from among the believers, not having any injury, and those who strive hard in Allah's way with their property and their persons are not equal
[4.144] O you who believe! do not take the unbelievers for friends rather than the believers; do you desire that you should give to Allah a manifest proof against yourselves?
[5.51] O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.
[8.39] And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah; but if they desist, then surely Allah sees what they do.
[9.5] So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
[9.11] But if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, they are your brethren in faith
[9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.
[9.30] And the Jews say: Uzair is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!
[9.33] He it is Who sent His Apostle with guidance and the religion of truth, that He might cause it to prevail over all religions, though the polytheists may be averse.
[9.123] O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil).
I wonder if an Australian Muslim can eat kangaroo meat?
This is far from true. This Surah's(chapters) from the Quran are taken out of context. Most Muslims in the world today cannot fight the battle of NOT SHAVING THEIR FACE, not looking at women in which they are not married to, not making the prayer at the prescribed, NOT FOLLOWING THE PROPHET (pbuh). To engage in a war because you see injustice is incorrect. First look at the injustice in yourself. The killing of noncombatants is wrong. The killing of any person is wrong unless all aspects of Jihad are present(this is another subject). The Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) was told to not fight the disbelievers in the earlier part of his Prophethood. Why? First because the people did not know their Religion. Islam was strange and it has returned to that stage of being strange. They needed to have understanding of Allah before they could pray to Him let alone DIE for Him or the cause of Islam. LEARN YOUR DEEN IS A MUST IN ISLAM, and do not fall victim to HIS-LAM(self interpretation). Their is only ONE CALL THAT ALL THE PROPHETS CALLED MAN TO. THAT IS TO WORSHIP ALLAH THE WAY THAT HE AND HE ALONE ASKED FOR US TO WORSHIP HIM. Noah had his CALL and man failed, Moses had his call man failed, Jesus had his call and man attempted to Murder him, Muhammad has his call and it is up to us to not fail this last and final call to adhere to Allah(The Creator) in all that he has Legislated for us to follow.(Peace and blessings to all the Prophets)
Your attempt to apologize for and explain away islam and its obvious hatred of anything not islamic is too little, too late. Your brethren wanted this fight, and they will get it.
Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Book 62:Wedlock, Marriage (Nikaah)
Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64:Narrated 'Aisha:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).Volume 7, Book 62, Number 88:
Narrated 'Ursa:
The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with 'Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death).http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/062.sbt.html
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This is all you need to know about Mohammed's character.
A normal man does not have sex with a nine year old child.
This is proof that Mohammed was at heart an immoral man, therefore not holy or a prophet, except of Satan. Do not uphold and perpetuate his lies, or you perform Satan's work.
Your idea of the truth is just what suits you at a particular moment and what you can make the other guy believe
This Surah's(chapters) from the Quran are taken out of context.
The same goes for your idea of "proper context."
Most Muslims in the world today cannot fight the battle of NOT SHAVING THEIR FACE
Technology in the islamic world is not yet up to making electric razors.
not looking at women in which they are not married to
What kind of crap god gets angry when you look at a 75 year old woman? They have to wear the gunny sack too.
not making the prayer at the prescribed
What kind of low self esteem god needs you to check in with him 7 times a day beginning at the crack of dawn? No wonder nobody has time to clean the garbage off the streets of your "Holy Cities". If you called your own mother to tell her you loved her at these intervals she'd stop answering the phone. Your god doesnt have anything better to do than listen to the same crap 7 times a day from 2 billion muslims?
NOT FOLLOWING THE PROPHET (pbuh)
The profet mohammad owned slaves, stole property and ordered executions. Slavery, theft and murder is evil. Therefore the profet is evil and nobody should follow the profet.
To engage in a war because you see injustice is incorrect.
That explains why muslims are silent about terrorism.
First look at the injustice in yourself. The killing of noncombatants is wrong.
Tell that to the guys in the Nick Berg video. Not to Freepers. Oh wait, a muslim doesn't criticize another muslim.
The killing of any person is wrong unless all aspects of Jihad are present(this is another subject).
In other words its wrong unless your mulla tells you to go kill.
The Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) was told to not fight the disbelievers in the earlier part of his Prophethood. Why?
Because he lacked sufficient followers, and knew he'd get his ass kicked.
First because the people did not know their Religion.
Apparently they still don't. Did you know most muslims have never read the Koran? Because most muslims are illiterate.
Islam was strange and it has returned to that stage of being strange.
Theres a point we can both agree on.
They needed to have understanding of Allah before they could pray to Him let alone DIE for Him or the cause of Islam. .... Muhammad has his call and it is up to us to not fail this last and final call to adhere to Allah(The Creator) in all that he has Legislated for us to follow.(Peace and blessings to all the Prophets)
So I guess you're pretty sorry they closed down those instructional camps in Afghanistan.
RESISTANCE IS FUTILE
YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED
not looking at women in which they are not married to
"The killing of noncombatants is wrong."
Then why did Muhammed engage in such killing? (there are numerous examples in hadith and quaran and the Sira).
How can he be a 'prophet' if he violates his own religion, let alone violating basic human morality. eh????
"The killing of any person is wrong unless all aspects of Jihad are present(this is another subject). "
yadda, yadda, yadda... preach that in the Wahabbist Madrassas in Pakistan, preach it to Bin Laden and Hezbollah etc. etc. It's not *your* intepretation of Islam that is the source of violence, its *theirs*.
lol ... you sound like a writer for Monty Python.
v Funny. And yet, you speak truly, imam rageaholic (pbuh).
If you say about Muslims what they say about themselves from many and varied sources with no refutation or denounciation from other Muslims, you are an anti-Muslim bigot.
The next argument is to say that the citations are not correct because they are not in Arabic and their meaning is only discernible in Arabic. I have heard that one many times. It usually follows the "out-of-context" argument.
see #13
Islam is the common denominator...for nearly every single act of brutality we witness today.
Your screed is too little to late. You clean up your own house, or we will do it for you.
May you drown in pig fat...I know women with more courage than you.
Onward Christian soldiers and to hell with your phony religious cult.
Yeah, ever notice whenever mohammad got the hots for somebody else's wife he got "special permission" from Allah to marry her, even though he already had the maximum allowable three wives? Allah allowed mohammad to exceed the maximum permissable number of wifes.
Seems pretty obvious "allah" was just mohammad's sock puppet. The whole islam thing was a hoax and the muslims are still falling for it.
The resounding silence of muslims not actively involved in stupid muslim death tricks (like 9/11 or bus bombings, et.al., in Israel) shows ongoing support for terrorism by all who follow the guidance of the koran.
The only time mulsims are NOT silent is when they celebrate in the streets after a particularly heinous stupid muslim death trick (like 9/11, etc.), providing MORE proof that the only way there will be peace in this world is if islam is eradicated like smallpox.
Islam proves my contention daily by it own actions, statements, or silence (take your pick).
As the article subtitle states, "As Muslims we are obligated to perform holy war" - as we see illustrated daily, by muslims, "holy war" means "stupid muslim death tricks" ranging from "suicide" bombings to hacking Nick Berg's head off.
Islam is the sworn enemy to all who do not agree with it; muslim idiots even kill each other if they disagree with each other! "Infidel" means anyone who dares to disagree with a muslim, a fact again illustrated daily by the actions of islam.
Islam = death. It is NOT a religion of peace and love, AGAIN as illustrated by the actions of islam on a daily basis.
Islam, BY ITS OWN ACTIONS, shows it has no redeeming social value. This is not opinion, this is FACT verifyable from many sources, including Al Jazeera which touts stupid muslim death tricks like they're proud of it....oh, that's right, islam IS proud of stupid muslim death tricks! Silly me.....
If you shave muslims, you leave less hiding places for parasites to hide in...
Hey, its mohammad's religion, so he can set up the rules (SARCASM!!)
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