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House rejects bill requiring hospitals to ask alien status (Neville Chamberlain would be proud)
May 18, 2004 | Associated Press

Posted on 05/18/2004 3:18:04 PM PDT by StoneColdGOP

WASHINGTON (AP) — The House rejected legislation that could have led to hospital emergency rooms denying some services to illegal aliens while helping to get them kicked out of the country.

Hispanic legislators led opposition to the bill, joining medical groups in contending that it would turn hospitals into law enforcement agencies and prevent illegal residents from seeking life-saving medical treatment.

It was defeated 331-88.

The legislation came to the House floor as a result of a promise that GOP leaders made to Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, R-Calif., in exchange for his vote on the Medicare prescription drug bill that narrowly passed last November.

Rohrabacher was ready to vote against the Medicare bill because it contained $1 billion over four years to reimburse hospitals for treating illegal immigrants. The Orange County conservative was told he could offer legislation to counter the effects of that provision.

Rohrabacher's bill would have required hospitals receiving money under the provision to obtain information on the immigration status and employer of people seeking emergency treatment. That information would have been sent into a database set up jointly by the departments of Homeland Security and Health and Human Services.

The Homeland Security Department would have been required to initiate deportation proceedings against illegal aliens.

In addition, employers of illegal aliens would have been responsible for the cost of unreimbursed emergency room care, and hospitals would not have had to provide care for an illegal alien who could safely be sent back to his or her own country for treatment.

Rohrabacher said health care for illegals has extended to heart bypasses, transplants and cancer treatment costing hundreds of thousands of dollars. Those opposed to his bill, he said, "are voting to spend our limited health care money to make America the HMO of the world. And then they act surprised when even more tens of millions of illegals flood into our country."

But Hilda Solis, D-Calif., said the bill would turn hospitals into law enforcement and immigration agents, and would have lead to scenarios where women in labor would have to choose between going to a hospital and being deported. "What kind of fear does that place in a community?" she asked.

Rep. Robert Menendez of New Jersey, the House's no. 3 Democrat, envisioned being asked to prove his citizenship in an emergency room because of his name. "That's shameful. You wouldn't ask any other citizen that," he said.

The Federation of American Hospitals, American Hospital Association and other medical groups wrote lawmakers urging opposition to the bill, saying it "would virtually ensure that illegal immigrants will avoid getting the appropriate and timely lifesaving health care they need, when they need it."

Rohrabacher said illegal aliens make up 43% of those without health insurance, and thus account for at least $9 billion of the $21 billion that hospitals reported in uncompensated health services last year. The office of Sen. Jon Kyl., R-Ariz., who was behind the $1 billion in the Medicare bill, put the annual cost of treating undocumented residents at about $1.45 billion.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; bordercontrol; getagrip; hissychickenlittle; hospitals; hr3722; iamahystericalgirl; iamanidiot; illegals; immigration; rohrabacher; stonehystericalgirl; taxpayers
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The Republican spine crumbles again. The bill got only 88 votes, 87 Republicans, and ONE Democrat (who had more guts and principle than a lot of Republicans).

Thanks Bush, thanks Rove. Here's to ya...

1 posted on 05/18/2004 3:18:06 PM PDT by StoneColdGOP
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To: StoneColdGOP

Link to the vote breakdown... How about not voting for anyone who voted NAY?

http://clerk.house.gov/cgi-bin/vote.asp?year=2004&rollnumber=182


2 posted on 05/18/2004 3:19:40 PM PDT by StoneColdGOP (McClintock - In Your Heart, You Know He's Right)
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I have a radical idea. How about requiring ALL patients to pay for medical care at hospitals?

Oh, I forgot. Health care is a "right", just like cable TV and a nice place to stay.

3 posted on 05/18/2004 3:21:58 PM PDT by snopercod (Freedom can be preserved only if it is treated as a supreme principle which must not be sacrificed)
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4 posted on 05/18/2004 3:22:40 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: StoneColdGOP

Thanks for posting the link.

Glad to say that Gibbons (R-NV) was one of the "Ayes".

Think I'll drop him a note of thanks too.


5 posted on 05/18/2004 3:25:32 PM PDT by Oatka
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To: StoneColdGOP

A correct outcome. Good.


6 posted on 05/18/2004 3:26:16 PM PDT by Glenn (The two keys to character: 1) Learn how to keep a secret. 2) ...)
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To: StoneColdGOP

Thanks! This reminds me to send a long overdue contribution to my adopted congressman, Steve Buyer -- adopted, because I can't *stand* having Jerry "The MOAB" Nadler as my actual one.


7 posted on 05/18/2004 3:27:18 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick ("If I could shoot like that, I would still be in the NBA" -- Bill Clinton, circa 1995)
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To: StoneColdGOP

I'm disgusted, but not shocked at all.


8 posted on 05/18/2004 3:28:16 PM PDT by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I shall defend to the death your right to stick it)
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To: StoneColdGOP
Perhaps if we kept illegals out of the country in the first place by securing our borders, we wouldn't have to put such legislation up for consideration in the first place. Secure the borders, boot illegals currently living here, and your problem solves itself.

It isn't the job of hospitals to make up for the pathetic border security we have in place. What's next? Having emergency room doctors audit tax records prior to providing medical care? "I'm sorry Mr Smith, we can't do that triple bypass until you clear up this little matter of your 2002 returns..."
9 posted on 05/18/2004 3:28:30 PM PDT by NJ_gent
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To: StoneColdGOP

10 posted on 05/18/2004 3:30:20 PM PDT by yonif ("So perish all Thine enemies, O the Lord" - Judges 5:31)
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Oh, I forgot. Health care is a "right", just like cable TV and a nice place to stay.

And just when the hell did health care become a "right"? I don't recall that one, and dozens besides being guaranteed to me. I remember "life, liberty and the pursuit (not guarantee) of happiness".

11 posted on 05/18/2004 3:33:08 PM PDT by StoneColdGOP (McClintock - In Your Heart, You Know He's Right)
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To: yonif

WTF is *that*?!


12 posted on 05/18/2004 3:33:12 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick ("If I could shoot like that, I would still be in the NBA" -- Bill Clinton, circa 1995)
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To: Oatka

Good for Gibbons. My Demorat Raza-Nazi voted "nay" of course.

Mr. Gibbons may find me as a new constituent of his before long.


13 posted on 05/18/2004 3:34:02 PM PDT by StoneColdGOP (McClintock - In Your Heart, You Know He's Right)
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To: NYC GOP Chick

A fat kid who looks to be going mad, which represents my feelings that this bill was rejected.


14 posted on 05/18/2004 3:34:57 PM PDT by yonif ("So perish all Thine enemies, O the Lord" - Judges 5:31)
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To: NYC GOP Chick

It represents my anger part, not my physical dimensions of course :)


15 posted on 05/18/2004 3:35:59 PM PDT by yonif ("So perish all Thine enemies, O the Lord" - Judges 5:31)
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To: NYC GOP Chick

Nadler? Ugh... Horrible indeed!


16 posted on 05/18/2004 3:36:09 PM PDT by StoneColdGOP (McClintock - In Your Heart, You Know He's Right)
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To: StoneColdGOP

Alternative headline - "House helps employers of illegal immigrants dodge costly bullet - taxpayers once again saddled with cost of health coverage"


17 posted on 05/18/2004 3:36:18 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: StoneColdGOP
And just when the hell did health care become a "right"?

1986, I think. That's when congress passed the the law forcing emergency rooms to accept all patients.

18 posted on 05/18/2004 3:37:10 PM PDT by snopercod (Freedom can be preserved only if it is treated as a supreme principle which must not be sacrificed)
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To: yonif

Oh. I thought the kid looks happy and excited - and the gif is named something like "woohoo."


19 posted on 05/18/2004 3:37:52 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick ("If I could shoot like that, I would still be in the NBA" -- Bill Clinton, circa 1995)
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To: Xenalyte

Same here. I'd buy a drink for every one of the 88 who supported this (even the Dem) if my wages weren't depressed by illegals.

I don't care, I'd like to see some of these weak-kneed Republicans lose their jobs over this issue. It is THAT important!


20 posted on 05/18/2004 3:38:26 PM PDT by StoneColdGOP (McClintock - In Your Heart, You Know He's Right)
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