Posted on 05/18/2004 1:31:07 AM PDT by kattracks
Ping!
ping
I've never read such a clear, convincing, and obviously well-researched explanation of Islam in the United States. The author of this piece (whose website I'm about to archive) deserves some kind of award.
Thank you, sir, for your public service.
For Freepers: may I simply urge that we propagate this information to as many people as possible. Especially members of Congress.
This author is wrong, or lying or both.
there is no "moderate" islam.
Only obedient jew and christian killing types who can read the koran....
and apostates who largely reject the entire ball of wax, want equality for their little girls and LIKE going to movies, drinking and ignoring stupid idiotic customs, prayers, the veil, the burqua, and the rest of the bs...
apostate islamics... are our only friends.
the rest are nuts waiting to be radicalized at the mention of the "I" word... Israel.
The only remedies for Muslim silence in the U.S. are, first, to empower and defend those Muslims willing to publicly declare their adherence to the classic, and long-established Islamic principle of obedience to any government that "does not interfere with the call to prayer"
Speaking of which, this is an example of "not interering with the call to prayer":
Muslim Call to Prayers in Michigan
The City Council of Hamtramck, Michigan approved an amendment to the city's noise ordinance to allow the Muslim call to prayer over (amplified) loudspeakers 5 times daily, from 6 a.m. - 10 p.m. The new ordinance takes effect May 26.
He was a guest on the program but he was on there for a scant 10 minutes it seemed. The host of the program told him to not bring up such matters. I heard the exchange live on the radio.
But what about America? The non-Wahhabist Muslims need to speak out more. They can't sit quietly by as their religion is hijacked by extremists or their silence will be heard as acceptance. All Muslims aren't bad people. They need to take back the organizations such as CAIR or form new ones.
I would ask the author why Christians would be "wrongly" convinced Islam is "counterposed to their faith." Christianity is literally outlawed in many Muslim countries and Christians have been slaughtered for their faith in unprovoked Muslim attacks historically too numerous to list. If allowed by the civilized world, they would kill every last Christian who refused to convert to Islam.
bmp
Let's put this in perspective. "All nazi's aren't bad people". "All communists aren't bad people" When you have an ideology that is inherently evil anybody who believes in it is bad. The only moslems that are good are MINO's : Moslems In Name Only.
Bump for later.
Islam is an enemy ideology. What are we doing about it?
where are the disproportionate number of Muslim-Americans volunteering to enlist in the U.S. Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marines as German-Americans did in WW I and as Japanese Americans (the most decorated unit in the war) did in WW II?
As one on this board who has constantly urged moderation of anti-Muslim sentiments, I still wait for this evidence of "loyalty." I think this would be the perfect way for Muslim-Americans to shut up those critics who are suspicious of them. We are all waiting.
I'm getting real tired of these Muslim apologists trying desperately to convince people that somewhere in the mythical land of Hon-o-Lee there are a 'majority' of peaceful, moderate Muslims. I especially find this line offensive
"Some of the worst Arab advocates seen on our airwaves, defending extremist violence, are not even Muslims, but are Arab Christians"
So Christians are the problem???
Literate muslims are hard to find.
Yes, among the many hypocracies of the RoP: most muslim "people of the book" are illiterate. Supposedly mohammad himself was illiterate. Islam is a hoax.
Good morning, Kat. There's a real problem with this statement, don't you think?
A rebuttal article:
The praise of Allah for all Muslims with his support and the humiliating of those who attempt to defeat Islam and who attack it and who entice the unbelievers with their cunning... He has ordered the prophet — peace be upon him — and he is master the merciful are with the slitting of the necks of some prisoners and their slow killing. And for us it is an example and a good example... we tell you to know that the coffins will arrive to you one coffin after another, as your people are slaughtered in this way... Then you kill the polytheists (Christians) where you find them and you take them and count them and place them where they can be seen...Allah is the greatest and the honor to Allah and to its messenger and to the militants. And our last claim is that the praise of Allah is the Lord of the Worlds.... And you see the slaughter your fighting brothers suspend the head of this unbeliever on one of Baghdad bridges so that they teach a lesson to others from the infidels and serves as a witness to the honor of the Muslims.
— Statement read just moments before the video taped murder and beheading of Nick Berg.
Americans have yet to realize that they are now embroiled in a decade's long war with vicious Islamofascists who hail from dozens of countries and nationalities. Al-Zarqawi, the terrorist leader behind the savage deaths of hundreds of Shiite civilians and Iraqi police, the attempted Ricin attacks in the UK and chemical attacks in Jordan, and the beheading of American civilian contractor Nick Berg, spoke just months ago of "gathering the sheep" for slaughter. Nick Berg was just the first victim in the plan of a series of dramatic public atrocities that will unfold in the months to come.
Watching the beheading of this idealistic young American and listening to his screams as he was butchered was revolting, sickening and maddening and yet it should be mandatory viewing. To truly understand the nature of this enemy we must digest their viciousness and use it to fuel the avenging fire that was initially kindled on September 11th 2001. War is not pretty, fun or nice but sometimes it is not only necessary but desirable when dealing with an enemy of such diabolical methods and goals.
The commitment to victory can only be solidified by free and just peoples when faced with such recent outrages as the enemy hacking and displaying bodies in Fallujah, the point blank shooting of a pregnant women and her four young daughters in Gaza, militants parading through the streets with the bloody remains of slain Israeli soldiers and the butchery of one slightly lost 26 year old American civilian.
Some commentators have made the observation that Islam has shown itself to be less of a religion than a bloody ideology similar to Nazism, Maoism, or the pesky militant Japanese cult of the Emperor that caused so much trouble a few decades ago. Where is the outrage in reaction to such crime from the good peaceful Moslems we are told are the vast majority of Islam? The silence is deafening and the followers of Mohammad bear a portion of responsibility and blame due to their failure to condemn such actions and for the continued support, shelter and protection of such terror artists offered by their clerics, mosques and communities not only here in the United States but all over the world.
One of my friends put it this way.
"Never forget that many of us saw, way back on Sept. 11, 2001, that the enemy of the Americans was the same enemy that was fighting Israel, and India, and Russia, and Indonesia and the Philippines, and infiltrating Europe, and advocating in America, and throwing acid in the face of unveiled women across the world, and preaching fanaticism in Saudi Arabia, and blowing up statues in Afghanistan, and manning the madrasses in Pakistan, and pushing propaganda on al-Jazeera, and blowing up schoolchildren in Tel-Aviv, and now beheading Jewish young men from Philadelphia."
Truer words have never been spoken. The mindset of Islamofascism is one of genocidal mania; the celebration of death and butchery, and revelry in the slaughter of innocents. Americans and civilized people the world over have been shocked by such sub-human behavior but they should not be. That is the character of the enemy that they face. It is the nature of a religious ideology that seeks the death or subjugation of all infidels and the extermination of the Jew. Al-Queda is just the latest manifestation of 7th century barbarism that has waged an endless shadow war on Western Civilization and has finally provoked the world war of ideology and religion that it has so eagerly sought.
American politicians in particular insist that this is not a war of religion or clash of civilizations. It is an endless spewing of "religion of peace" quotes, diatribes on "a nation of immigrants" and complaints about ethnic profiling at airports. I wish that someone would tell that to the enemy, for that is exactly the war that they are waging.
Whether it is the Muslim Brotherhood, Al-Queda, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, Hamas, Al-Tawhid, Abu Sayyaf, the Taliban, Al-Ansar Islam, Al-Sadr's militia, Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan (SSP), Beyyiat el-Imam, Jund al-Shams or the dozens of other militant terrorist groups infesting the globe, their methodology, goals, tactics, cruelty, tenacity and victims are often eerily the same. It is a strange world of martyrdom, jihad, cries of Allah Akbar and fantasies of a heavenly reward of 72 virgins. They may differ by sect, creed or nationality but each wages war on the innocent, the Christian and the Jew, the concepts of Liberty and Justice, and Western Civilization itself.
The ideology of militant Islam is not some small isolated group of malcontents as they are so often portrayed. Millions of Moslems are adherents to the ideology and religious fervor that wages war on the West. The cries of jihad echo in the bloody guerilla warfare of Algeria. It is the ideology of the Arab slavers waging war on Christians in Sudan. It is the call from hundreds of minarets in Saudi Arabia and the gospel of the mullahs of Iran. It is the creed of the border tribes of Pakistan and was the heart and soul of the Taliban. It flourishes in the jungles of the Philippines and the slums of Indonesia. It sallies forth from the green valleys of Lebanon and preaches its hate in the mosques of Europe.
There will be no easy victory and the legions of the deluded zealots who vent their rage in the blood of the vulnerable, innocent and helpless will not be quickly defeated. Civilized peoples across the globe must learn to steel themselves against the coming barbarity and prepare for the long struggle against those who would slice your throat and murder your children in their beds if given half a chance. Their fanaticism cannot be underestimated and the righteousness of the cause of those who fight against them cannot be doubted. The world must answer terrorism and those who fancy themselves the warriors of Allah with a resolve for utter and total victory.
David Huntwork
May 15, 2004
http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/huntwork/040515
My personal feeling is, I wouldn't be holding my breath while waiting. Wholesale renunciation is about the only thing that I see as evidence of loyalty. I for one am just a little tired of freedom sucking folks of all types, willing to spout any brand of stupidity, and still enjoy living under the banner of freedom, and liberty, paid for by the precious blood of our noble countrymen and women fighting on the front lines throughout our short history.
We have ample evidence of the lack of loyalty, and the sincere desire of Muslims to be loyal to one thing, and that one thing does not include the United States of America, but they are perfectly willing to bask in the light of freedom and liberty, that is such a basic part of our country, that most of us would feel disinherited if it were lost. The line is drawn in the sand and there will be some tough decisions that will have to be made if we are to survive as a nation.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.