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Sarin not evidence of WMD: Blix
Melbourne Herald Sun ^ | 18 May, 2004 | Matt Moore

Posted on 05/17/2004 8:20:19 PM PDT by yatros from flatwater

FORMER chief UN weapons inspector Hans Blix said that a shell containing sarin nerve gas used in an attack in Iraq was most likely a stray weapon possibly from the first Gulf War.

Blix said today that the discovery of the nerve agent was not a sign that Saddam Hussein's regime possessed weapons of mass destruction before the war last year.

The US-led coalition used that claim to justify the invasion even though UN inspectors failed to make any significant finds before the war.

The former Swedish foreign minister said the 155-mm shell used to attack a US military convoy Monday could have been part of a group of old, unused shells that were simply debris leftover from the war in 1991, adding the weapon could have been scavenged from a dump.

"It doesn't sound absurd at all. There can be debris from the past and that's a very different thing from having stockpiles and supplies," he said.

"Whether this may indicate something more ... I think we need to know more about it."

Saddam's regime was told to destroy any weapons of mass destruction under UN resolutions passed after the 1991 war. Blix reiterated that his inspectors found no such weapons in the run-up to the invasion.

"We found a dozen warheads that were intended for chemical weapons and they were empty," he said.

His inspectors also found four other shells that were designed to carry chemical weapons, including the sarin used in the attack Monday, but they were also empty.

US Brig. Gen. Mark Kimmitt said in Baghdad that two soldiers were treated for minor exposure to sarin, but no serious injuries were reported. He said he believed that insurgents who planted the explosive didn't know it contained the nerve agent.

Blix, former director of the UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission, has sharply criticized the US and Britain for invading Iraq without UN approval. He retired last year and currently heads a new Stockholm-based independent commission on weapons of mass destruction.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: artilleryshells; blix; blixie; hansblix; iraq; kimmitt; markkimmitt; nerveagent; sarin; shells; stockholm; sweden; un; unmvic; wmd
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To: TexasGunLover

We will never get that lucky. (DARN IT!)


161 posted on 05/18/2004 2:44:18 PM PDT by ChefKeith (NASCAR...everything else is just a game!)
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To: yatros from flatwater

Sarin sounds like a WMD to me.


162 posted on 05/18/2004 4:38:59 PM PDT by tob2 (Before you criticize and abuse, walk a mile in my shoes.)
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To: yatros from flatwater
What BG Kimmit is describing is a "mix in flight" binary round. While he says that the Iraqs had declared all such rounds destroyed prior to the 1991 Gulf War, that isn't entirely true. The truth is the Iraqis said they never had such rounds. The Iraqis never claimed to have them. The United States never thought they had the capability:

The U.S. Defense Department’s “Militarily Critical Technologies List” (MCTL) is “a detailed compendium of technologies" that the department advocates as “critical to maintaining superior US military capabilities. It applies to all mission areas, especially counter-proliferation.” Written in 1998, it was recently re-published with updates for 2002.

There was some talk shortly before the first Gulf War that the Iraqis had been creating binary chemical weapons, in which the relatively non-toxic ingredients of the agent remain unmixed until just before the weapon is used; this allows the user to bypass any worry about shelf life or toxicity. But according to the MCTL , “The Iraqis had a small number of bastardized binary munitions in which some unfortunate individual was to pour one ingredient into the other from a Jerry can prior to use” – an action few soldiers were willing to perform.

Note that the referenced article is from Alternet, and it is saying that the US, Ritter, and the UN "knew" that there was no binary weapons capability in Iraq. We know that they didn't have these prior to the Gulf War, and the UN says that they never developed or weaponized any WMD after the Gulf War, under the inspection regime.

Found here.
163 posted on 05/18/2004 4:43:01 PM PDT by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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To: yatros from flatwater

Yeah, and Saddam's nuclear facilities were for medical research, too.


164 posted on 05/18/2004 5:03:16 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (All the good taglines are taken...)
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To: Our man in washington

"X=the amount of WMDs we find in Iraq.

X+1=The amount of WMDs we will have to find in Iraq to convince the left that Bush told the truth about WMDs.

These equations work for any value of X.

When we found none, the left said "we couldn't even find one." We find a few, and they say we have to find a few more for it to matter. This game could go on forever."

Your equation works for many other things as well. For Instance:

Y= evidence found that Saddam was working with/helping terrorists

Y+1= amount of evidence needed to prove to the left that Saddam was working with/helping terrorists.


165 posted on 05/18/2004 5:09:19 PM PDT by mjaneangels@aolcom
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To: texasflower
I will help conduct that experiment.

No you won't. You're far too nice.

But allow me, instead. You know I just don't give a damn.


166 posted on 05/18/2004 5:10:57 PM PDT by rdb3 ($710.96... The price of freedom.)
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To: yatros from flatwater

Blix the consumate idiot would claim death has nothing to do with dying!


167 posted on 05/18/2004 5:24:22 PM PDT by winker
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To: fdsa2

"I a fascinated by the Blix-bashing here at Free Republic.

IMHO No evidence has been produced to prove Blix was wrong on any account?

The whole WMD discussion is moot since the invasion/intervention/pre-emptive action..."

Why? Because you're now losing the argument?


168 posted on 05/18/2004 5:25:03 PM PDT by Zhangliqun
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To: winker

What's that one about "shinola"?? I can never get that one.


169 posted on 05/18/2004 5:39:18 PM PDT by IamConservative (A man who stands for nothing will fall for anything.)
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To: Zhangliqun

"Face it, Bush needs more than one Sarin shell and sixteen empty shell casings to convince the American people that the Iraq War was necessary or wise. According to Rasmussen, only 45% of Americans think we are winning war on terror. Not good for Bush's reelection prospects."

Go take another course in logic: that is a non-sequitur.

Just because 55% of the public doesn't think we're winning or isn't sure, it does not follow that they don't think it was necessary or wise. Nobody with half a brain thought we were winning in the Spring of 1942 either but that didn't mean we thought it was unnecessary or unwise to fight back against Japan and Germany (and Italy).

Besides, how many more than one would it take for you?


170 posted on 05/18/2004 5:41:34 PM PDT by Zhangliqun
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To: Zhangliqun

This just in:

Hans Blix says pictures, quotes, videotape, interviews of family members of Hans Blix are not evidence of the existence of Hans Blix.


171 posted on 05/18/2004 5:43:53 PM PDT by Zhangliqun
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To: yatros from flatwater
Oh, and pregnancy isn't necessarily evidence of prior sexual congress.

Jesus Christ
172 posted on 05/18/2004 5:52:06 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: yatros from flatwater; thoughtomator; Mo1; TexasGunLover; Grim; All

David Kay is saying the same thing. Have to wonder why he picked NPR to discuss it with though.....LOL...think easy interview with no hard pressing questions.......hahahahaha

http://www.npr.org/features/feature.php?wfId=1901043


173 posted on 05/18/2004 6:46:43 PM PDT by Mixer
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To: rdb3

OK, you're probably right. But if you ever get the chance to do it, be sure and give me the details!


174 posted on 05/18/2004 7:50:11 PM PDT by texasflower (in the event of the rapture.......the Bush White House will be unmanned)
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To: yatros from flatwater


Blix said today that the discovery of the nerve agent was not a sign that Saddam Hussein's regime possessed weapons of mass destruction before the war last year.



Aint it funny how a person can say one thing on one day, change his story the next day, and he's STILL believable? Blix needs to experience "panty power"!


175 posted on 05/18/2004 8:02:37 PM PDT by Just Lori (I am continually amazed)
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To: Palladin

Blix is so irrelevant.


Ah, but he IS to the American left and the European hoardes who don't study history!


176 posted on 05/18/2004 8:04:36 PM PDT by Just Lori (I am continually amazed)
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To: TYVets
Will Hans volunteer to be the Canary in the bird cage for our troops?

With his sorry inspection resume I would say he's more than qualified for the job.

177 posted on 05/18/2004 8:16:52 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
"Blix's brain"

Better known as a vacuum between 2 ears.
178 posted on 05/18/2004 8:55:41 PM PDT by dalereed (,)
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To: yatros from flatwater

-"It doesn't sound absurd at all. There can be debris from the past and that's a very different thing from having stockpiles and supplies," he said."-

Nerve gas is now debris?!?!?


179 posted on 05/19/2004 5:05:05 AM PDT by AmericanChef
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To: yatros from flatwater

Blix is right; there wasn't any WMD. Syria was borrowing it and is now returning it to its rightful owners.


180 posted on 05/19/2004 8:29:04 AM PDT by jjm2111
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