Hey TMA docs: "I'm your huckleberry..."
Posted on 05/17/2004 2:27:08 PM PDT by hocndoc
Everyone in the nation is likely to be affected by this new change, since I'm sure that the pro-killing crowd will jump on this as soon as they leave Massechussetts.
Sorry about the footnotes. I did proofread the body.
Can't wait to read it.
Not surprising when you realize we can thank Houston-area hospitals for their cutting-edge adoption of "Futile Care Protocols" laying the track on which euthanasia's coming at us like a runaway train.
This is........I don't know a word that fits!
Sickening is the best I can come up with.
Population reduction is a real aim for these people.
Yep. First appears in the 1970 Congressional Record, as a matter of fact:
Recommendations of the Task Force on Earth Resources and Population
As a result of reduced death rates, there are more people in their non-productive years than ever before. More children and more elderly people unable to participate in the world's work force increase the burden on the productive age group. [...] The National Academy of Sciences has said:Either the birth rate must go back down or the death rate must go back up.
Concerted depopulation efforts have only just begun, IMHO.
Where's the "Don't Mess with Texas" crowd when you need 'em?
Let's leave the Luddite stuff to the liberals and Europeans. Cloning and stem cell research could bring jobs back to America.
Cloning? Do you include the cloning of humans in your little Jobs Program?
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Why don't we leave the name calling in some emotional arena, not in the realm of science.
Did you read and understand the points?
First, there is nothing "Luddite" about non-maleficence. There is nothing backward about equal protection of the right to live.
There is no need for embryonic stem cells and so no need for the cloning techniques to obtain embryonic cells.
Adult and umbilical cord cells show great promise. The patient's own stem cells are turning out to be the best bet for *true* therapy.
And our doctors don't have to learn to kill in order to treat anyone.
ping
Thanks for the bump!
Hey TMA docs: "I'm your huckleberry..."
I would love to have the ability to "bank" copies of my heart and other vital organs as backups when the originals fail. There is no medical point in cloning entire human bodies at the moment, but this would change if the ability to "download" mental state from a dying brain to a clone replacement ever comes to pass.
As an American, I hope technology like this is not something we are going to have to fly to Shanghai to get.
bttt
"As an American, I hope technology like this is not something we are going to have to fly to Shanghai to get."
I can just hear someone saying, in the defense of experiments on Jews during WWII:
"As an American, I hope brain surgery is not something we are going to have to fly to Berlin to get."
Yes, those experiments led to brain surgery, and it has probably saved more lives than it took. Does that make human experimentation okay?
Hell, by that logic, I am absolutely certain we could start making -huge- medical strides in all kinds of areas if we decide that experimenting on and vivisecting human beings is perfectly okay. Save lots of time and money by not needing to get FDA approval too.
It's totally besides the point anyway. As others have pointed out, adult stem cells are proving perfectly suitable, and in fact, using a person's own stem cells shows the greatest chance of successful therapy. That makes ALL kinds of sense, given the issues surrounding rejection rates, so why even risk it before the possibilities with adult stem cells have been exhausted?
Qwinn
You are talking about adult stem cell technology, not embryonic or cloning as recommended by the TMA.
Somatic Cell Nuclear Transfer results in producing embryos, which results in "cloning entire human bodies."
I agree that we need to pursue ethical stem cell research in order to achieve just the sort of advances that you desire.
Very good analogy, Qwinn.
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