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Arctic Temperatures Warming Rapidly - Polar Explorer
Yahoo! News ^ | 5/17/04 | David Ljunggren - Reuters

Posted on 05/17/2004 11:54:12 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

OTTAWA (Reuters) -

Summer temperatures in the Arctic have risen at an incredible rate over the past three years and large patches of what should be ice are now open water, a British polar explorer said on Monday.

Ben Saunders, forced by the warm weather to abandon an attempt to ski solo from northern Russia across the North Pole to Canada, said he had been amazed at how much of the ice had melted.

"It's obvious to me that things are changing a lot and changing very quickly," a sunburned Saunders told Reuters less than two days after being rescued from the thinning ice sheet close to the North Pole.

"I do know it's happening because that was my third time in the Arctic (in the last three years)," said Saunders, who explored the region in 2001 and 2003.

An international study last year said global warming would melt most of the Arctic icecap in summertime by the end of the century. Many scientists blame the rising temperatures on human emissions of greenhouse gases while others point to what they say are longer-term natural warming and cooling cycles.

"The temperatures were incredibly warm ... I had days when I could ski with no gloves and no hat at all, just in bare hands, because I was too hot," said Saunders.

Logs from an expedition in 2001 showed the average Arctic temperature at this time of year was minus 15 to minus 20 degrees Celsius (plus 5 to minus 4 degrees Fahrenheit).

Saunders said the average temperature this time was just minus 5 to minus 7 degrees Celsius (23 to 19 degrees Fahrenheit).

"I saw open water every single day of the expedition, which is not what I was expecting," said Saunders, who had to don a special thermal suit and drag his sled across open patches of water nine times during the 71 days he spent alone. He covered a total of 965 km (600 miles) before giving up.

"I think a ski crossing from land to land (Russia to Canada) if conditions stay the same -- let alone get any worse -- is impossible," he said.

Saunders had planned to set off from Russia's northernmost Arctic islands in March but instead of ice, he discovered a 70 km (34 mile) open stretch of water. He had to be flown to the closest pack ice.

"The ice was terrible, right from the word go; very smashed up, very few flat areas," he said, adding that the usually impermeable multiyear ice was thinning.

"(It) is becoming less stable and it's breaking up more easily. There are enormous pressure ridges, and enormous areas of what I'd describe as rubble."

Saunders said he had also been struck by the almost complete absence of polar bears on the Russian side.

"That surprised me a lot ... that's historically been a very concentrated area for bears," he said.

"Whereas in 2001 we were attacked by a bear on day two (of the trek) and saw bear tracks nearly every day for the first three weeks, this year I saw four sets of tracks during the entire expedition."

Polar bears hunt out on the ice during summer months and are forced to retreat back to land when the ice is too thin.

Saunders said the weather had been poor for much of the trip with much more cloud cover and fog than he had expected. The fresh snow he encountered was soft and bulky, unlike the typical hard, fine-grained snow found in the Arctic.


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KEYWORDS: arctic; climatechange; doom; dooom; doooom; polarexplorer; rapidly; temperatures; warming
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To: CWOJackson

Finished trying the melting ice experiment yet?


21 posted on 05/17/2004 12:17:58 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: NormsRevenge

I gotta question: If we are losings so many jobs to overseas manufacturers..should we by default be sending less green house gases in to the atmostphere. Meaning who needs the US adhearing to KYOTO.


22 posted on 05/17/2004 12:18:00 PM PDT by FlatLandBeer
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To: Doctor Stochastic

No...I was finished with the junk scientist doom and gloom people years ago though.


23 posted on 05/17/2004 12:18:51 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson

Buried in a dusty stack somewhere I have a National Geographic from the mid-80s in which a pair of Norwegians made a similar journey. I don't remember the details, except that A) they managed to put down a very large polar bear with a small 44 magnum, and B) they had to schedule the trip for a precise time window as the ice would begin melting in the early spring.


24 posted on 05/17/2004 12:19:13 PM PDT by Cobra Scott
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To: CWOJackson

Exactly, I haven't seen a change.


25 posted on 05/17/2004 12:20:28 PM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: Doctor Stochastic; CWOJackson

I thought your theory was correct and I'm trying to prove it.

The Chief won't admit a mistake, though.

You can always tell a Warrant Officer - - You just can't tell 'em much.

No offense, Chief, I was one.


26 posted on 05/17/2004 12:20:44 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: NormsRevenge

"drag his sled across open patches of water nine times"

I'd like to see that. Every time I try to drag a sled across open patches of water, I end up under water.


27 posted on 05/17/2004 12:21:59 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Cobra Scott
There is a fine window between the Arctic winter and Arctic summer when the ice starts to melt. During the winter the weather and darkness would make it very difficult for the skier and any attempts to supply/rescue them. So he had to try and make his effort between the two. Sometimes it happens, sometimes it doesn't.

Whalers who worked the Arctic for years would sometime be trapped by ice forming far faster then in previous years.

28 posted on 05/17/2004 12:23:51 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: Cobra Scott
Hmmm, makes you wonder if his longterm study of this region "I do know it's happening because that was my third time in the Arctic (in the last three years)," said Saunders, who explored the region in 2001 and 2003 makes his very complete survey of the region more valid than the Norwegians you refer to B) they had to schedule the trip for a precise time window as the ice would begin melting in the early spring.
29 posted on 05/17/2004 12:24:14 PM PDT by Dad was my hero
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To: CWOJackson

dumber then a box of rocks.


30 posted on 05/17/2004 12:24:40 PM PDT by jpsb (Nominated 1994 "Worst writer on the net")
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To: leadpenny

I like your experiment with Rum and Coke.


31 posted on 05/17/2004 12:25:54 PM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: leadpenny
It really doesn't matter much to me either way. During my 30+ years I hauled all sorts of beakers around (the fond term we had for so-called scientists). For years it was the global cooling we're headed for an ice-age crowd (who are starting to pop back up), now it's the global warming Kevin Costner was right crowd. I guess the thought that perhaps the Polar regions go through climatic cycles hasn't occured to any of them.

Another thing about Warrants...they don't suffer fools lightly.

32 posted on 05/17/2004 12:26:47 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
You scientific ignorance on simple flotation doesn't bode well for people's acceptance of your comments on climate change. Whether you're right or wrong is irrelevant given your incorrect methodogy. It's no better than guessing.

I've never really understood why conservatives wish to handicap themselves in scientific matters.

33 posted on 05/17/2004 12:28:04 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: jpsb
Of course you are there jpsb. I see you must have gotten lonely over there on your Bush trashing thread so you decided to follow me.

I have to tell you, I don't take strays in. I send them to the pound where they are gassed if no one claims them.

34 posted on 05/17/2004 12:28:06 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: VRWC_minion
I agree its getting warmer. I can recall seeing pictures taken during the 50's of car driving on Long Island sound during the winter.

History records a mini ice age in the 1400s (I believe) that had many rivers in Europe frozen that had never been frozen before. Which internal combustion engines were responsible for the subsequent warming? The earth goes through periods of cooling and warming which does not mean that mankind is responsible for it.

35 posted on 05/17/2004 12:28:12 PM PDT by Dad was my hero
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To: CWOJackson
melting the floating ice would make the ocean levels rise, consistent with the volume of water forming the ice that is above water the water level.

Are you sure about that?

36 posted on 05/17/2004 12:28:45 PM PDT by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: NormsRevenge

Quite confusing.
At the same time we hear about freezing over we now are exposed to news from a skier prevented to ski from Russia to Canada that there is too much open water for lack of cold.
I'm still waiting for an accurate weather report for the next five days and therefore are less concerned about forecasts covering the next 50 years.


37 posted on 05/17/2004 12:29:12 PM PDT by hermgem
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To: Doctor Stochastic

Hey, if it's no better then guessing I guess I should be one of the global warming/global cooling community.


38 posted on 05/17/2004 12:29:22 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
"Where is the water going?"

Think about your scotch and soda with ice cubes in the glass. As they melt, does the scotch and soda overflow the edge of the glass? No. Same with the polar ice that is floating.

39 posted on 05/17/2004 12:29:32 PM PDT by NetValue (They're not Americans, they're democrats.)
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To: RightWhale

My error has been pointed out regarding floating sea ice.


40 posted on 05/17/2004 12:30:19 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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