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Arctic Temperatures Warming Rapidly - Polar Explorer
Yahoo! News ^ | 5/17/04 | David Ljunggren - Reuters

Posted on 05/17/2004 11:54:12 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

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1 posted on 05/17/2004 11:54:14 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
Imagine that. For years now I keep reading the same "scientific" stories about how the Polar regions are warming...yet the ocean levels aren't rising?

Where is the water going?

2 posted on 05/17/2004 11:55:54 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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Well, there's this amazing thing that happens in spring and summer...

It gets warmer.

They just never tell you the flip side: in fall and winter, it gets colder...


3 posted on 05/17/2004 11:57:39 AM PDT by Poohbah (Four thousand throats may be cut in a single night by a running man -- Kahless the Unforgettable)
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To: NormsRevenge

This guys not very smart. I would think it would be obvious to him why this is happening. Now, let's see what cataclysmic event happened 3 years ago that could account for this change? Ahhh yes George W Bush was elected, er should I say selected, as President. I think it's fairly obvious that is precisely the time that global warming really took root.


4 posted on 05/17/2004 11:59:39 AM PDT by marlon
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To: CWOJackson

Melting the floating ice will not raise the level of the water, only make it less salty. Melting in Greenland or Antarctica would be another matter.


5 posted on 05/17/2004 12:00:51 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Doctor Stochastic

Yes, melting the floating ice would make the ocean levels rise, consistent with the volume of water forming the ice that is above water the water level.


7 posted on 05/17/2004 12:04:00 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: NormsRevenge

This is personal, after all, it did ruin his vacation!!!!!


8 posted on 05/17/2004 12:04:42 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple
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To: NormsRevenge

"The temperature at the north pole has risen several degrees just in the last few weeks," Saunders said. /sarcasm


9 posted on 05/17/2004 12:05:13 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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And to think I spent all that time on polar ice breakers watching the end of the world and didn't even know it.


10 posted on 05/17/2004 12:05:38 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: Poohbah

And to think I spent all that time on polar ice breakers watching the end of the world and didn't even know it.


11 posted on 05/17/2004 12:05:43 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: Poohbah
"(Four thousand throats may be cut in a single night by a running man -- Kahless the Unforgettable)"

Four thousand cuts I have made to myself running with scissors -- Kenny the Klumsy.

12 posted on 05/17/2004 12:06:21 PM PDT by BlueLancer (Der Elite Møøsënspåånkængrüppen ØberKømmändø (EMØØK))
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To: NormsRevenge

I agree its getting warmer. I can recall seeing pictures taken during the 50's of car driving on Long Island sound during the winter.


13 posted on 05/17/2004 12:07:39 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: CWOJackson; Doctor Stochastic

I'm putting some ice cubes in a large glass of water.. Marking the level before and after the ice melts.

Tapping foot - waiting . . . I'll have the answer in a bit.


14 posted on 05/17/2004 12:09:38 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: CWOJackson

BUMPKIN


15 posted on 05/17/2004 12:10:13 PM PDT by tpaine (In their arrogance, a few infinitely shrewd imbeciles attempt to lay down the 'law' for all of us.)
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To: NormsRevenge

If he wants a challenge, let him go in a kayak the whole distance.


16 posted on 05/17/2004 12:10:37 PM PDT by Ramonan (Compare the Circumstances)
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I'm sure that was your favorite pie...normal people call it Pumkin however.


17 posted on 05/17/2004 12:11:22 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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So long as the ice that's melting is SEA ice, there won't be any difference in sea levels as floating ice doesn't affect the sea level at all. So far, the main effect of polar warming has been to melt the Arctic ice sea ice and the Ross Shelf in Antarctica. The worry is that the next thing to melt will be land ice on Greenland or on the Antarctic continent. This is expected to lead to sea level changes.


18 posted on 05/17/2004 12:11:45 PM PDT by NotAnObviousMember
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Yes, melting the floating ice would make the ocean levels rise, consistent with the volume of water forming the ice that is above water the water level.

Wrong. Try doing the experiment with a few ice cubes and a pot of water. Archimedes demonstrated this some years ago.

Invalid scientific arguments don't help in discussions of climate change.

19 posted on 05/17/2004 12:14:00 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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"Invalid scientific arguments don't help in discussions of climate change.

What, I thought that was the whole basis of the climate change people...first it was proof positive of global cooling and then proof positive of global warming.

20 posted on 05/17/2004 12:15:19 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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