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To: jtminton
I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that you are a pretty staunch Calvinist.

Actually I accept that the bible teaches "calvin doctrine" and equally teaches "freewill". That both doctrines coexist. Is that a problem? I mean you can read the text for yourself.

60 posted on 05/17/2004 8:03:06 AM PDT by kjam22
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To: kjam22
Actually I accept that the bible teaches "calvin doctrine" and equally teaches "freewill". That both doctrines coexist. Is that a problem? I mean you can read the text for yourself.

You really have to look no further than John 3:16 to know if we serve a choosy God:

"For God so loved the world that He gave His only-begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.

67 posted on 05/17/2004 8:08:09 AM PDT by jtminton (<><)
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To: kjam22
Actually I accept that the bible teaches "calvin doctrine" and equally teaches "freewill". That both doctrines coexist. Is that a problem? I mean you can read the text for yourself.

Yes, I more or less share your perspective. I suspect that when we find two opposite doctrines in seeming coexistence, it means that the real principle at work is more complicated than we realize...and no, I have no clue how it works, except according to the Lord's will.

"O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing!" - Luke 13:34

73 posted on 05/17/2004 8:12:52 AM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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