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1 posted on 05/17/2004 12:36:39 AM PDT by JustPiper
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FYI

How about some truth.

Jerry Golden
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 3:02 AM
Subject: How about some truth.

http://www.thegoldenreport.com

5-20-04

How about some facts Intelligence and I might add very good intelligence that weapons brought in from Iran and Saudi Arabia by Hizbullah are sitting near the Israeli Egyptian border ready to be brought in by tunnels into Rafah.

Some of them still in a tunnel that goes under the Suez Canal near a town called El-Arish where they were unloaded from a ship. These weapons were to escalate the battle between the Terrorists groups controlled by Yasser Arafat to make it appear that the IDF was ran out of Gaza much like that of Southern Lebanon by the Hizbullah.

These are not just guns and grenades what we are talking about is a very large shipment of Strella shoulder-launched anti-aircraft missiles capable of bring down commercial airliners as well as military and Sagger anti-tank missiles to kill many IDF soldiers. With a collection of other long range missiles that can be aimed at many Israeli towns, killing many Jews.

With this type of information Israel had little choice but to stop this shipment and those certain to come after it, and to do it now before thousands of Israelis were killed. In the mean time Egypt sits still and will not lift a hand to stop the smuggling of weapons into Israel.

It would be impossible for Egypt not to be in full knowledge of these shipments yet they turn a blind eye. This is the same country that the US has armed with F-16 and many other long range weapons knowing they have no enemies who means them any harm, and that there only desire is to destroy Israel.


I heard the wonderful political speech George Bush just gave to secure some Jewish and Christian votes. But maybe someone should ask him why he will not pick up the phone and talk to his old friend President Mubarak of Egypt who stays at his ranch, and ask him why he doesn't cut off the smuggling tunnels. Or why he doesn't stop the ships that bring the weapons in from Iran then stocked piled in the desert waiting their turn to come through the tunnels into Gaza?

Israel had no choice but to launch a strong operation dubbed " Operation Rainbow" to clear out the houses that the Terrorists used to hide their snipers and weapons smuggling tunnels.

Yasser Arafat ordered tens of thousands of Palestinians to march on the IDF, with armed Hamas and Islamic Jihad Terrorists among them. Knowing that if they ever got close to the IDF soldiers at the Philadelphi Route it would cause a shoot out, for they would have to be stopped.

For without any doubt they would overwhelm and kill the IDF soldiers. The route the Palestinians were coming down was also heavy mined. The IAF helicopter fired a missile into an open field in front of the on coming Palestinians and the IDF tanks fired shells into an empty building along side of them to frighten them into scattering knowing that if they didn't stop many would have to be killed. It was then there was an explosion in the middle of the group.

The IDF and the IAF both say they never fired into the middle of the crowd and that it is under investigation. But in the mean time Israel has offered to give medical help to the wounded which the PA refused.

The real villain here is Yasser Arafat, he was so upset over operation Rainbow that it would once again stop his shipment of arms from Iran to kill Jews so he order his people into the streets to die for his cause. His logic seems to be that if he couldn't get the weapons he wanted for his terrorists he'd set up a situation that would bring the world down on Israel once again.

Israel has no choice but to widen the Philadelphi Route in Rafah, for if Israel pulls out of Gaza the IDF will have to patrol that border. Israel can never give Arafat access to the Egyptian border, then he wouldn't even need tunnels. Over the past couple weeks these houses have been used by Palestinian snipers and many of them have tunnels under them for the movement of weapons from Egypt to Gaza.

I remember a month or so back that when the IDF blew up a tunnel they looked on the Egyptian side of the border and a lot of smoke came out of an Egyptian Police Station. This gives you some idea what we are up against.

The real victims here are not just us Israelis but the Palestinians for they have been brainwashed with Islamic doctrine from birth, and along came Yasser Arafat who told them that to be a martyr for Allah was the highest calling. I have seen a glimmer of hope over the past few weeks, even King Abdullah has hinted that Arafat should step down. Several noted and well-known Palestinian Journalist have finally gotten the courage to say he should step down.

But as I said it is but a glimmer and the real fire is burning from the Arafat camp and that includes Hamas and Islamic Jihad who could not operated without his approval.

In closing I want you to notice the pictures shown by CNN & BBC showing all the kids who were being carried out of the area. As soon as there is any attack by the IDF Palestinian men start grabbing kids and carrying them in front of the cameras. What is even more disturbing is the Reporters know what is happening but show the pictures anyway.

CNN & BBC reported that up to 18 were killed, but the real number has proven to be 8, but that is being called a massacre.

It's like the time when one of the IAF cameras caught the act of a "corpse" that fell off the stretcher he was being carried on, and jumped up and got back on the stretcher.


At the same time a US helicopter fired into a house full of family members having a wedding in Iraq killing 45, also regrettable I am sure, but watch which one gets the most publicity.


Pray for the peace of Jerusalem, for our son Joel, for all the IDF soldiers and all those who have come to fight the Islamic enemy. Pray for this Ministry and your part in it.


Shalom,
jerry golden


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1,409 posted on 05/21/2004 8:18:43 AM PDT by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: JustPiper

First of all, there are no failures, only distractions. The anti war , anti americans only wish thewe were actual failures.


1,805 posted on 05/22/2004 8:22:24 AM PDT by bert (Don't Panic !)
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ALERT FOR ILLINOIS AND TEXAS:

FDA: Outbreaks May Be From Salad Packages

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1,984 posted on 05/22/2004 11:24:01 PM PDT by JustPiper
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Mosque foes' fear is clear

Objections in Orland are residue from backlash after Sept. 11, observers say

http://www.dailysouthtown.com/southtown/dsindex/23-ds1.htm


2,173 posted on 05/24/2004 1:53:44 AM PDT by JustPiper
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IT'S ~~~~HERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRE!!!!!!!!!!

THE SLAG IS ADVANCING! . . . VIP INDEED! VERY IDOLATROUS PROCEDURE--INDEED!




Clubbers choose chip implants to jump queues

NewScientist.com news service

Clubbers in Spain are choosing to receive a microchip implant instead of carrying a membership card. It is the latest and perhaps the most unlikely of uses for implantable radio frequency ID chips.

The Baja Beach Club in Barcelona offers people signing up for VIP membership a choice between an RFID chip and a normal card. VIP members can jump the entrance queues, reserve a table and use the nightclub's VIP lounge.

"The RFID chip is not compulsory," says Conrad Chase, managing director of the club. But he says there are advantages to having it. The obvious one is that you do not have to carry a membership card around with you, but also it means you can leave your wallet at home. This is because the RFID can be used as an in-house debit card, says Chase.

When drinks are ordered the RFID is scanned with a handheld device and the cost is added to your bill. The chips, called VeriChips, are produced by US company Applied Digital Solutions. Grain of rice

The chips are 1.2 millimetres wide and 12 millimetres long and look like a long grain of rice. A medically trained person injects the chip under the skin in the upper left arm, by the triceps.

A scanner reads the chip by emitting a radio signal. This energises the chip and causes it to send out a small radio frequency signal. This can be picked up from about 10 centimetres away.

Chase would not discuss the cost of each chip but said that both card-holding and implanted VIP members would be charged the same fee of 25 Euros for joining.

So far only nine people have been implanted since the scheme started in March. Chase says this is because you cannot implant people who agree to it in the early hours when they might be drunk. They need to discuss the procedure in a sober environment first, he says.

Privacy issues

But they should also be informed of the privacy implications of having an implant, says Ian Brown, director of the Foundation for Information Policy Research, a UK-based think tank.

"It's not like you can take it off when you leave the club or get home," says Brown. "At the very least it's going to be awkward to remove."

As far as Chase is concerned there are no privacy issues. The bearer has control over what services they sign up for, he says. The only information that can be gleaned without their consent is the chip's unique ID number - it is completely anonymous, he says.

But people may object even to this, says Brown, in much the same way that some are opposed to the use of internet cookies recording their browsing activity.

It would be like becoming a walking internet cookie, he says. For example, retailers equipped with RFID scanners would be capable of monitoring chipped shoppers visits and purchases.

Duncan Graham-Rowe

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redemption draweth nigh."

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2,452 posted on 05/25/2004 6:04:14 AM PDT by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: JustPiper

2,800+ comments on a single thread. Is that a record?


2,839 posted on 05/26/2004 12:33:05 AM PDT by walford (http://utopia-unmasked.us)
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3,561 posted on 05/27/2004 1:52:21 AM PDT by JustPiper (There is a LAW of Cause and Affect)
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To: JustPiper

Please put me on ping list? Just found the thread.. so this is where everyone has been????

:)

Will try to catch up in next few days. See LOTS of familiar names from war/situation room threads.

Thank you.


4,521 posted on 05/28/2004 5:37:59 PM PDT by DollyCali ("What happens in Vegas, STAYS in Vegas". Laura Bush to Jay Leno May 2004)
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CALLING ALL HISTORIANS

. . . from this thread:

BRITISH MOSLEM CLERIC says it's OK to shoot or kill nonMoslems

HAS THERE EVER BEEN
in any culture
at any age . . .

the phenomenon where
a people, a nation,
invited willingly
into their midst,
sustained, protected,
played polite games with,
as equal citizens,

THOSE SWORN
TO DESTROY
?????THEM?????

HAS IT EVER BEEN--at all

HAS IT EVER BEEN--anything like currently is occurring in Western societies with the Islamists????

Do you know of any other comparable historical idiocy?

I'm really curious if anyone is knowledgeable from a professional standpoint and can give a comment from the sweep of all recorded history. Or maybe someone who's read Will and Ariel Durant's life's work.

4,915 posted on 05/29/2004 6:00:52 PM PDT by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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