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This is an interesting group of folks. Posting it for review, reference, and comment.
1 posted on 05/16/2004 10:31:26 AM PDT by mattdono
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To: mattdono
Gonzo conservatives have done and seen things their fathers never could have imagined,...

Such as storming the beaches at Normandy?

2 posted on 05/16/2004 10:34:48 AM PDT by The Duke
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To: mattdono
Not a punk fan(more into Southern and classic Rock), but conservatism is a big tent. It's not just the suit crowds.

Good points.

3 posted on 05/16/2004 10:36:57 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("I bury those cockroaches")
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To: mattdono
Reagan appealed to the punk (and metal) crowds by not pushing "cultural conservativism". When the Buchanan crowd got it back on the agenda in 1992, it backfired.

-Eric

4 posted on 05/16/2004 10:39:52 AM PDT by E Rocc (It takes a village to raise a child. The village is Washington. You are the child. - PJ O'Rourke)
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To: mattdono

For one thing, the original punk rock was one of many passing genres that emerged in the late '70s as a backlash against the insincere, corporate formulaic music that was dominant at that time [Disco mostly, but also there were some cash-driven rock bands as well].

We also called it New Wave or New Muzik, whatever. I know, I was there listening to the Ramones, Iggy & the Stooges, Generation X, Television, Talking Heads, Devo, etc.

For the most part, the cultural side of this movement was apolitical -- really was more sure of what it was AGAINST than what it was for. That is, necessarily a transitional stage. Eventually one must step up to the plate and offer cogent analysis leading to solutions [see the website in my tagline].

The political evolution that is described was certainly the case for me personally. I saw even in those days that the Left were not the 'Progressives' they purported themselves to be.

Many of my contemporaries saw them as Medievalist reactionaries who harbor a fundamental disdain for the general population. They are elitists who believe that a cadre of Philosopher Kings should be more equal than others, running a benign tyranny for our own good.

I was deeply impressed by Ronald Reagan's rhetoric and, although he seemed to have little chance of winning [the media was extremely hostile], I voted for him in 1980 at age 21.

This was the beginning of the time when college students were tending to be to the right of their professors. The hippies -- a decade our senior -- were baffled at why we were not going to carry the torch, continuing America's 'progress' toward National Socialism.

A classic representation of their perspective of my generation was the TV show 'Family Ties.' There we had the conniving, greedy Alex Keaton and his airhead sister Mallory. Offering a hopeful 'alternative' [Leftist bromides] was the younger sister [played by Tina Youthers].

Perhaps the author is using the punk rock appelation today, because youngsters now are actually thinking much as we did 20 years ago -- even their music is sounding similar [much more positive and optomistic than the dreary 90s grunge drivel].

Further, today's youngsters are more patriotic than their 30-something elders.


6 posted on 05/16/2004 11:00:54 AM PDT by walford (http://utopia-unmasked.us)
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To: gonzo
ping to you, punk.

;^)

8 posted on 05/16/2004 11:06:39 AM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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Once upon a time I had a 'Harriet Tubman' t-shirt. Cost me .88 cents at VelVaSheen in Cincinnati. They were a t-shirt printing company and used to sell their misprints and over stocks for in their discount shop. Great deals.
14 posted on 05/16/2004 11:38:32 AM PDT by Khurkris (Ranger On...revenge, grudge, payback...call it what you will. The knives are comin' out.)
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To: mattdono
Thanks for posting this. I was planning to last week when I did research for my rebuttal to this article:

George W Bush: Punk icon?

17 posted on 05/16/2004 6:00:33 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: bc2; qam1

Xer/Rock & Roll double PING!


18 posted on 05/16/2004 6:03:11 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: mattdono

welcome aboard, punks! nice to see you finally slipped off the plantation.

nice to have you in the 'hood.

but let's get one thing straight: if I had a daughter, you'd still get the "shotgun" talk :)


21 posted on 05/16/2004 6:47:27 PM PDT by King Prout (the difference between "trained intellect" and "indoctrinated intellectual" is an Abyssal gulf)
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To: mattdono
Gonzo conservatives have done and seen things their fathers never could have imagined

Yeah right...dream on shorty.

22 posted on 05/16/2004 6:49:34 PM PDT by wardaddy (This is it. We either win and prevail or we lose and get tossed into that dustbin W mentioned!)
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To: mattdono

I listen to Andrew Wilcow who first advertized this. It's a good website.


23 posted on 05/16/2004 6:51:00 PM PDT by cyborg
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To: mattdono
Johnny Ramone Republican here!

Some of my fave bans from this genre: Ramones, Pistols, Dead Kennedys (although Jello is a pr-ck), Clash, Buzzcocks, Agnostic Front, Black Flag (pre-Jealous Again), Circle Jerks, Dictators.

26 posted on 05/16/2004 8:48:59 PM PDT by Clemenza (Strolling along country roads with my baby...)
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To: mattdono
This is an interesting group of folks

I think "mixed-up" or "confused" would be a mre accurate adjective than "interesting".

33 posted on 05/16/2004 10:29:44 PM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: mattdono

bump


45 posted on 05/18/2004 12:01:43 AM PDT by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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