Posted on 05/14/2004 12:10:38 AM PDT by kattracks
Edited on 05/26/2004 5:21:49 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
May 14, 2004 -- Iraq's feared Abu Ghraib jail was one big sex romp - sometimes by candlelight with an audience watching, U.S. troops said yesterday. Sex and alcohol were commonplace, and soldiers frequently set up candlelit rooms for voyeuristic sex shows, said a soldier who served at the notorious prison.
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Wow. And I'll bet you never got a "thank you" from a grateful Civilization on either side of the Atlantic.
Well, here's a belated one from me: THANKS for being a Spartan.
Aw shucks, (blushes, shuffles feet) yer welcome ma'am, but this was peacetime Germany, not Thermopolye. I appreciate the sentiment and your giving expression to it though. Tell an active duty service member today how you feel, they're in the mud (well the dust and heat) now, getting shot at by the gomers.
It will do wonders for their morale, they have access to current US press reporting to a degree unheard of in the past for troops in the field and they need to know the folks at home support them, despite what the big media outlet presstitutes are reporting.
So long as you are not the Quartermaster.... :)
Pride! Legacy and all that.
If it's just about sex, then the RATs should have no problem with the goings on in the prison. The RATs should just MOVE ON.
Re # 175:
Anybody else think that guy looks like Bill Clinton?
"That statement simply is flawed on it's face as women and men both being in the military has not historically been an issue"
It has always been an issue. If you think the relatively small numbers of women who served in WWII created a situation anything like today's, you need to read some history.
Their roles were restricted and they were carefully segregated.
Even so, things happened. My mother's first husband got blown up by a mine, fell in love with his nurse, and divorced my mother--who was Catholic. I think that had something to do with her falling away from the Church, but she never talked about that very much.
Any time you put men and women together in a situation like that, you're going to get immoral behavior. My first experience with that sort of thing was at Office Candidate School in 1980. The men and women were on the same floors, next door to each other. Just in my company there were several divorces and one heck of a lot of humpty-hump. No effort was made by anybody to discourage it.
Because we are an army of one?
Listening to people involved in intel, they are saying what was going on there with the prisoners, was *no way* thought up by privates in the prison. They're saying they were looking for permanent snitches, once released they would continue snitching so the embarrassing photos of them would not be released to their families and friends etc.....
You bet Chaplain! The three guys who keep a commander out of trouble (well, four if you count the JAG) are the CSM, Chaplain and Surgeon. It would appear that none of these folks were present, or doing their duty. Clearly the commander wasn't...
regards,
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