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Outrage as KISS player mouths off on Muslims
Sydney Morning Herald ^ | May 14, 2004

Posted on 05/13/2004 9:25:48 PM PDT by veronica

KISS bass player Gene Simmons has caused an uproar among Australia's Muslim community by launching an attack on Islamic culture while in Melbourne.

The lizard-tongued rock god who is touring Australia with the world's most enduring glam rock band launched an attack on Muslim extremists during an interview on Melbourne's 3AW radio - including comments which were labelled inaccurate.

"Extremism believes that it's okay to strap bombs on to your children and send them to paradise and whatever else and to behead people," he said yesterday.

The Israeli-born US musician went on to say Islam was a "vile culture" that treated women worse than dogs.

Muslim women had to walk behind their men and were not allowed to be educated or own houses, he said.

"Your dog, however, can walk side by side, your dog is allowed to have its own dog house... you can send your dog to school to learn tricks, sit, beg, do all that stuff - none of the women have that advantage."

He went on to say the west was under threat.

"This is a vile culture and if you think for a second that it's going to just live in the sands of God's armpit you've got another thing coming," he said.

"They want to come and live right where you live and they think that you're evil."

Simmons said the United Nations approach did not work and the west had to "speak softly and carry a big stick".

The radio station today fielded calls from Muslims upset at the comments, including Australian Muslim of the year Susan Carland, who said Australian Muslims rejected extremism and did not fit Simmons' stereotype.

Ms Carland said she had two degrees, was doing her honours and "certainly do not walk behind my husband".

Chairman of the Islamic Council of Victoria Yasser Soliman said Simmons' comments were "very unfortunate".

"He's very famous obviously and popular and, as a result, influential," he said.

"Mixing the entertainment world with the political and religious world is a minefield."

He said Simmons had begun by talking about extremists but had gone on to vilify the entire Muslim culture.

"A number of his claims regarding women and what they are allowed to do and not do are wrong - Islam teaches the opposite," he said.

Simmons had a right to free speech, but this had to be balanced against the damage done to innocent people, he said.

"I think it would be good for overseas speakers and commentators to be given some sort of advice in regards to our vilification laws here," he said.

"They leave and go back to where they arrived from, but they leave behind a big mess that we have to live with."


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: asktheimam; australia; entertainer; feminism; feministsmia; freespeech; genesimmons; humanrights; islam; islamofascism; jews; kiss; kissarmy; music; muslims; pc; politicallycorrect; preachingtothaquior; religion; religiousintolerance; rock; rockandroll; rockmusic; terrorism; women; womensrights
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To: weegee
Hey, that "Ask The Imam" website is gonna put Dear Abby outta business. Ask The Imam!
161 posted on 05/13/2004 11:02:59 PM PDT by Minutemen (It's A "Religion of Peace")
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To: John Will; 68skylark
I can understand you're initial reaction to that post, but it was almost certainly pure sarcasm on the author's part. I've inadvertently posted a snarky response to a genuine FReeper before myself in such circumstances, so now when I'm in doubt I usually do a brief check of the poster's previous posts in other threads before replying.
162 posted on 05/13/2004 11:03:29 PM PDT by A Jovial Cad ("I had no shoes and I complained, until I saw a man who had no feet.")
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To: evolved_rage

Deep Purple or Black Sabbath


163 posted on 05/13/2004 11:04:17 PM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: veronica

The band sucked...his interview rocks!!!!


164 posted on 05/13/2004 11:08:55 PM PDT by demsux
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To: potlatch; MeekOneGOP; Happy2BMe; Mia T; ntnychik; PhilDragoo; dixiechick2000; onyx; jennyp


VILLIFICATION LAWS!


165 posted on 05/13/2004 11:35:38 PM PDT by devolve (................... [..........................Hello from Sunny South Florida.............)
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To: evolved_rage

bump


166 posted on 05/13/2004 11:36:42 PM PDT by Keltik
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To: canuck_conservative
BTW#2 - about KISS being Jewish - I recall something about their use of the Nazi "SS" symbol in their logo was their way of having the last laugh....

Could be. Someone once asked the late actor Werner Klemperer why he had agreed to play Colonel Klink on "Hogan's Heroes" (his father was a famous orchestra conductor in Germany who was Jewish and the family barely got out of Europe with their lives).

He replied that he'd agreed on condition that the part would always be written to be as comically buffoonish as possible. He figured that making people laugh at them was a way to take his revenge on the Nazis even though most were already dead.

167 posted on 05/13/2004 11:37:33 PM PDT by Heatseeker
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To: veronica

Tongue lap bump!


168 posted on 05/13/2004 11:38:26 PM PDT by wardaddy (This is it. We either win and prevail or we lose and get tossed into that dustbin W mentioned!)
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To: tortoise
Isn't Simmons the guy who says he's slept with something like 10,000 women? and Cher?

No, no, no. You are thinking of Richard Simmons.

I just spit beer on my screen :)

169 posted on 05/13/2004 11:53:21 PM PDT by america-rules (It's US or THEM so what part don't you understand ?)
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To: veronica

170 posted on 05/13/2004 11:58:53 PM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: The Coopster; veronica
Another side note: All the original members of KISS, and almost all of the replacements, were Jewish. While I'm certain someone else will doubtless correct you by the time I've finished typing this: neither Peter nor Ace were Jewish, as per Gene's own accounting in KISStory. (Gene himself, as well as Paul, were, of course.)

More online funsies, for fellow FReepers and KISS Army Regulars alike: DUmmies Get Their Panties All Knotted Up Over Simmon's Remarks .

Great catch, veronica!

171 posted on 05/14/2004 12:01:28 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: The South Texan

Wish he would start speaking up here in the US... what a great rave... excellent.


172 posted on 05/14/2004 12:18:20 AM PDT by Terridan (God help us send these Islamic Extremist savages back into Hell where they belong...)
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To: BJungNan
"You think only liberals can see shades of grey. "

Only at KISS concerts.

"If it appears as "black and white" to you"..

I got ripped off by my acid connection?

"I'd go on but I doubt you are even here."

Where is "here" and if you're there why don't you know if I'm there? Can I have your push?

173 posted on 05/14/2004 12:23:45 AM PDT by bayourod (Was Kerry one of the 17 Congressmen to whom Lawson sent torture pictures in March?)
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To: bayourod

I really did enjoy watching you surround and out-number your friends on that other thread...it was masterful.


174 posted on 05/14/2004 12:29:02 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: veronica
including comments which were labelled inaccurate.

Maybe it was the part about the dogs.

175 posted on 05/14/2004 12:30:41 AM PDT by meadsjn
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To: arasina
I'm among what is evidently a small minority, but I cannot stand The Eagles.

Their "singing" always sounded like whining to me.

176 posted on 05/14/2004 12:45:25 AM PDT by Moonman62
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To: CWOJackson

Those good old boys are the salt of the earth, and I support their cause, but they have to be swatted with a rolled up newspaper when they start that crap about not voting for Bush.


177 posted on 05/14/2004 12:50:27 AM PDT by bayourod (Was Kerry one of the 17 Congressmen to whom Lawson sent torture pictures in March?)
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To: evolved_rage

dude you cant forget the RAMONES they completely changed the face of rock and roll worldwide forever during the 70's 80's and 90's


178 posted on 05/14/2004 12:56:41 AM PDT by freepatriot32 (today it was the victory act tomorrow its victory coffee, victory cigarettes...)
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To: FierceDraka
When rock stars of the 70's were ruining themselves with drugs and rock'n'roll excess, he was using his earnings to build his own business empire.

I believe that Simmons personally owns the rights to the KISS name and makeup/costume trade marks, as well as the copyright to the KISS song catalog. He shrewdly bought them up for a pittance when they were out of fashion in the 80's and 90's. The rest of the guys pissed their earnings away on drugs and women.

Now that they are a popular concert act again, the other guys are mere employees of Simmons, who keeps the lion's share of their earnings and replaces them at will. I suppose the original guys regret the day they chose to put on makup and thereby became anonymous, interchangeable bit players in Simmons' private money-spinning machine.

-ccm

179 posted on 05/14/2004 1:18:16 AM PDT by ccmay
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To: endthematrix
"The "either-or" polarizing debates don't do conservatism any favors. "

Of course you are right. But you should try to understand and relate to my love/hate relationship with KISS.

It's a long story and I won't bore you with all the details, but it started with a little hottie I met at a Halloween party costumed as Gene Simmons and her midget girlfriend named "Little bit". Well, I think you can fill in the blanks and appreciate the bi-polarization influences of black/white symbolism. Thanks for your emotional support.

180 posted on 05/14/2004 1:30:20 AM PDT by bayourod (Was Kerry one of the 17 Congressmen to whom Lawson sent torture pictures in March?)
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