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To: kattracks; onyx; section9; Travis McGee; Sabertooth; Nick Danger; Dog Gone; Cannoneer No. 4; ...
These porn photos of *our troops* engaged in consensual sex with each other put to lie the tired old theory that they were "following orders" in some strict military fashion at the behest of others.

Our military police did not order them to engage in those acts. Our military intelligence did not order them to engage in those acts. Nor did their commanding officers.

They *only* explanation is that these troops were out of control. They filmed themselves nude. They filmed their prisoners nude. They used their own personal cameras to film and email all of the above. They were not issued government cameras for these acts. They were not ordered to use their own cameras for these acts. They were clearly acting on their own.

They created their own Porno-Land inside that prison, and their smiles in their own pictures of the prisoners tells the world that they were having a blast while being so out of control.

335 posted on 05/13/2004 11:15:36 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
These porn photos of *our troops* engaged in consensual sex with each other put to lie the tired old theory that they were "following orders" in some strict military fashion at the behest of others.

They completly destroy the theory that they were "following orders" and that this was some kind of new interrogation method.

They now open this up to whether or not the DoD/Administration has the guts to lay the blame where it should be laid, and to admit that the decisions in regards to political correctness were poor at best, and dangerous at worse. I think they have to, and I expect other officers in the chain of command to start being named or coming forward.

Notice Ms. England was quite shy/vague to name names of those above her that "ordered her" to engage in these acts. That tells me she knew she screwed up. Her stories have already fallen to pieces.

341 posted on 05/13/2004 11:34:07 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Southack
Exactly! Thank you.
357 posted on 05/13/2004 12:51:07 PM PDT by NYC Republican (How can Americans SERIOUSLY consider voting for an ADMITTED WAR CRIMINAL Scum like SKerry???)
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To: Southack
Your post 335, states eloquently,
exactly what I am thinking.
You had this nailed from the get go.
Bravo!
365 posted on 05/13/2004 1:33:21 PM PDT by onyx (Rummy's job is winning the war, not micro-managing some damn prison.)
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