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salon.com contacts DFU over FR's role in murder of Nick Berg by Islamofascist Terrorist b*st*rds
email from salon.com reporter
| 5-12-04
| dfu
Posted on 05/12/2004 4:27:51 PM PDT by doug from upland
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Apparently, I am in the middle of a controversy regarding the brutal murder of Nick Berg by the Islamofascist terrorist b*st*rds.
I received the following FReepmail today from a salon.com reporter and spoke to him off the record. I will either call him back on the record or he can use my comments here on the record.
Salon.com inquiry, your post on the "enemies list"
From (redacted) | 05/12/2004 11:45:13 AM PDT read
Doug,
Hello. My name is (redacted), and I'm a reporter at Salon.com. On March 7, you posted a list of signatories to an ANSWER protest; that list, which is now being discussed by a few left-leaning bloggers, includes the name of "Michael S. Berg," who is the father of Nick Berg, the man beheaded in Iraq.
It seems as if you just posted a copy of the list from the ANSWER site, but the trouble is, your list appears much longer than the one on their page. Michael Berg's name -- and many others -- is not on their page.
So I wonder if you can tell me where you got your list -- have you any idea why yours is longer than the one they have?
I also wonder what you think about the fact that you named these people enemies; do you really think they're enemies? Some people on left-leaning blogs are floating the theory that Nick Berg was detained or singled out by U.S. authorities in Iraq because of the list you posted. I wonder what you think of that idea?
I'm not trying to attack you; I'm a reporter trying to get to the bottom of this story, and it'd be great to get your input. Can you e-mail or call, or let me know where to reach you? Thanks so much.
--(redacted)
Reporter, Salon.com (phone number redacted)
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NOTE: my first suggestion was to tell the report to ask ANSWER why many of the names have been removed from that original post.
Here is my post from a few months ago -- HERE IS THE ENEMY -- they have posted their names
Here is the link for the following excerpt on an FR thread -- Beheaded Man's Firm Was On Right-Wing 'Enemies' List
Original source -- original article by Fintan Dunne
Beheaded Man's Firm Was On Right-Wing 'Enemies' List
Breakfornews.com ^ | May 12, 2004 | Fintan Dunne
Posted on 05/12/2004 12:59:00 PM PDT by Tarantulas
Beheaded Man's Firm Was On Right-Wing 'Enemies' List
The family firm of beheaded American Nick Berg, was named by a conservative website in a list of 'enemies' of the Iraq occupation. That could explain his arrest by Iraqi police --a detention which fatally delayed his planned return from Iraq and may have led directly to his death.
Nick Berg, 26 disappeared into incommunicado detention after his arrest by Iraqi police in March, 2004. He vanished again after his release 13 days later. His body was found last Saturday in Baghdad, and a video of his beheading --supposedly by a radical Islamic group-- was posted on the Internet on Tuesday.
The official story of his gruesome murder has many dubious aspects, not least the real reason why Iraqi police detained the young man at a checkpoint. New research by BreakForNews has uncovered a plausible explanation.
The FreeRepublic.com web site and forum has a reputation for right-wing views, often fanatical Republican and relentless pro-war activism.
On 7th March, 2004, just three weeks before the first anniversary of the invasion of Iraq, an 'enemies' list of anti-war groups and individuals was posted on the Free Republic forum.
It began: "Here you are, FReepers. Here is the enemy."
The list had been copied from publicly available endorsements of a call to action for an imminent anniversary antiwar protest on 20th March, 2004. The protest was being organized under the banner of the A.N.S.W.E.R Coalition (Act Now to Stop War & End Racism).
Among those listed as having endorsed the call to action was this entry: "Michael S. Berg, Teacher, Prometheus Methods Tower Service, Inc."
That's Nick Berg's father, Michael who acts as business manager for his son in their family radio communications firm, Prometheus Methods Tower Service.
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Here is my immediate reaction --- what is the color of the sky in the fantasy world which Fintan Dunne calls home?
I can't wait for her next story. Let's set the scenario. Two guys are driving to the airport. Their upper radiator hose bursts, the car overheats, and they miss their flight. They get to the airport a few hours late and are able to catch the next plane. The plane crashes. Fintan Dunne headline: Pep Boys Implicated in Death of Innocent Travelers. If anyone could conceive such twisted logic, it would be Ms. Dunne. Without a defective radiator hose, they would have made it to the airport on time. Without a defective radiator hose they would not have been on the flight where the shoebomber detonated his loafers in the seat just behind the wing.
Do we have an official "enemies list"? If so, what do we do to them? Who is keeping track?
I will let you make some comments before I make additional on the record comments. Please don't be crazy. Think through your argument carefully. Some of this may appear on salon.com and we can perhaps help them get up to about 2 cents per share.
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To: js1138; Kip Lange; DollyCali; Carolina; Miss Marple; Timeout; Howlin; retrokitten; ...
"Does the internet wayback machine still exist? Has anyone tried to find and objective picture of the ANSWER site in March?"
YES !!!! I remember using that feature a long time ago but don't know where to find it again. There MUST be a Freeper lurking about who knows where it is. Any help???
Nam Vet
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posted on
05/12/2004 7:56:00 PM PDT
by
Nam Vet
(Shopping for a new tag-line)
To: E. Pluribus Unum
As of Saturday, February 28, the March 20 Call to Action has received over 2,000 endorsements. Below is a partial listing. Click here to endorse.
Call signed by (partial listing): Could that "partial listing" have anything to do with it?
To: ladyinred
but I did hear the soundtrack today on Hannity. I had the radio on and was in the other room and didn't realize Sean was going to do that .. My daughter came running from the room wanting to know what that was all about ... I wasn't thrilled at having it to explain to my 9 yr old
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posted on
05/12/2004 7:59:31 PM PDT
by
Mo1
(Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
To: Izzy Dunne
So.... the CIA murders this guy's son, because his DAD is anti-war, is that it? That is precisely one of the reasons they stated. I guess their lives are so boring they have nothing better to do than make up conspiracies to blabber about.
They railed on and on about the evils of the US guards, but when it came to those sickos killing someone they blamed Bush, said it was good timing for him, etc and so on. If they spent half as much time rooting out the evil plans of the real terrorists as they do the loony crap they claim Bush has done perhaps we would be done with this terror war by now.
264
posted on
05/12/2004 8:01:49 PM PDT
by
chance33_98
(Shall a living man complain? Oh how much fewer are my sufferings than my sins;)
To: anniegetyourgun
"The family firm of beheaded American Nick Berg, was named by a conservative website in a list of 'enemies' of the Iraq occupation. That could explain his arrest by Iraqi police --a detention which fatally delayed his planned return from Iraq and may have led directly to his death."I'm impressed. The Iraqi police not only can read English, they read Free Rebublic! Furthermore, the fluent in English Iraqi police connected the dots & arrested Berg the son despite weeks between Doug's initial post of the list & the arrest. Outstanding! These same Iraqi police then hacked into the ANSWER files, and removed the Berg name from the official list after the fact. Awesome! These guys are good!
265
posted on
05/12/2004 8:05:29 PM PDT
by
handy
To: Diva Betsy Ross
It is simple really, they are out of their minds.Very succinct!
266
posted on
05/12/2004 8:17:47 PM PDT
by
ride the whirlwind
(And we will defend the peace that makes all progress possible. - George W. Bush)
To: ZOOKER
That's why I think you should immediately post another list - one with Hillary's father, Daschle's father, Micheal Moore's father, Nancy Pelosi's father, Bill's father (if you can find him)....LOL
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posted on
05/12/2004 8:19:22 PM PDT
by
ride the whirlwind
(And we will defend the peace that makes all progress possible. - George W. Bush)
To: reagandemocrat; doug from upland
The L.A. Times quoted from a "conservative website" yesterday, I'm pretty sure it was FRSue them for copyright violation.
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posted on
05/12/2004 8:20:05 PM PDT
by
tgslTakoma
(Still waiting for my paycheck from Mr. Scaife...)
To: doug from upland
"Some people on left-leaning blogs are floating the theory that Nick Berg was detained or singled out by U.S. authorities in Iraq because of the list you posted."
I'm floating the theory that these people need to be on medication.
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posted on
05/12/2004 8:24:31 PM PDT
by
Avenger
To: doug from upland
I'll wait to see if Nick Berg was indeed arrested because his daddy was on a list of Antiwar signatories. I don't know, personally, the reason why Nick was arrested.
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posted on
05/12/2004 8:28:13 PM PDT
by
Tolerance Sucks Rocks
(Good evening. I'm Sydney Biddle-Barrows, and welcome to Whore Stories!)
To: doug from upland; Ah Beng; ladyinred
IMO - This is a wild s t r e t c h trying to implicate the FR forum. We are obviously causing some well deserved grief to the democraps and libs. One of the wildest s t r e t c h e s is the connection of the Berg names, from a list that was posted on FReerepublic. Quite a piece of Sherlock Holmes work!!
As everyone knows, FReerepublic has been under attack and this is a s t r e t c h to continue the effort.
I do not recall the Daniel Pearle murder being related to any list. One commonality present is they were both of the Jewish faith, both a US citizen. This is all the savages need to justify to themselves what they did. AND it will continue if we do not put enough teeth in our war effort to leave a bite scar.
Apologies will not win the war. A Muslim mindset change is the only way to a peaceful coexistence.
As far as your response to the salon.com reporter - blow him off, he is looking for more details to feed the attack. Good Luck with your decision.
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posted on
05/12/2004 8:32:19 PM PDT
by
chadsworth
(sKerry is like a calender, he changes daily! Mr. Flip & Mr. Flop-Only Pres. Bush can make him stop!)
To: doug from upland
At first I thought this was ridiculous, but you never know, there might be something to it. Let's give it a try:
ENEMIES LIST
Ayman al-Zawahiri
Abu Musab Zarqawi
Osama bin Laden
Moqtada al-Sadr
Yasser Arafat
Here's hoping they end up in American custody and/or in the hereafter. NOTE TO THE PEOPLE SUPPOSEDLY READING THIS: Please don't just off these peoples' families.
272
posted on
05/12/2004 8:33:33 PM PDT
by
JohnnyZ
(It's a nice day for a white wedding)
To: Mo1
Right before I read your comments, I was thinking about the thread from the other night...about how there is an organized effort to prevent FReepers from discussing news stories. Totally bizarre
273
posted on
05/12/2004 8:40:55 PM PDT
by
Freedom2specul8
(Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
To: Nam Vet
274
posted on
05/12/2004 8:43:03 PM PDT
by
Freedom2specul8
(Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
To: MonroeDNA
That's nothing. Here's the latest:
Did Freepers Kill Nick Berg?
Why We're Not Ruling It Out
By Tamara Baker
May 12, 2004 -- SAINT PAUL, MINNESOTA (apj.us) -- By now, we've all heard the story.
A group claiming affiliation with Al Qaeda captured an American named Nick Berg, who had been looking for contract work in Iraq.
They then videotaped his beheading, claiming that it was revenge for the sickening torture of Iraqis at Abu Ghraib and other US-run prisons.
As it turns out, our military intelligence officers in Iraq have told the Red Cross that between 70 and 90 percent of the persons in Iraqi jails were arrested "by mistake", and so are being tortured "by mistake".
Furthermore, only 600 out of the 43,000 persons arrested during the US occupation (that's 1.4%) have been referred to authorities for prosecution. The vast majority of the others are condemned to wait without hope of trial (much less release), and most of them have committed no crimes whatsoever.
Considering that right-wingers among us called for nuking Falluja over the deaths of four privateers a few weeks ago, I'm frankly amazed by the Iraqis' comparative restraint.
And speaking of right-wingers and Nick Berg -- guess what?
They just might be responsible for his death.
Here's the scoop:
http://www.apj.us/20040512Baker.html Sheesh. Shaking head.
The left is made up of idiots, fools and tools.
To: Jim Robinson
Oh Lord.
Unreal.
Just when I think I can't be surprised,
guess what?
I am surprised.
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posted on
05/12/2004 8:47:15 PM PDT
by
onyx
(Rummy's job is winning the war, not micro-managing some damn prison.)
To: doug from upland; JustAmy; mtngrl@vrwc; gracie1; Mama_Bear; jkphoto; notpoliticallycorewrecked; ...
See the above for the latest bilgewater from the left.
To: Jim Robinson
I've heard of negative IQ's but never believed they really existed.... until reading Tamara Baker.
278
posted on
05/12/2004 8:51:05 PM PDT
by
Tamzee
(Kerry's just a gigolo, and everywhere he goes, people know the part he's playing...)
To: tgslTakoma
The irony is too delicious: Suing the LAT for copyright infringement.
Patt Morrison quotes posts "on a self-described conservative website: 'Most of these prisoners are murdering scum who would sell their children into slavery for the right price, and we're getting our didies twisted because we imagine there's a risk some of them might be (oh, no!) humiliated?"
...
"on that website shows:
Yes, the Islam-O-Nazis are murdering dirtbags, but don't defend the Americans ..."
Morrison goes on further to quote more posts, which I'm quite sure are from FreeRepublic. If only we can find that thread............
To: doug from upland
...No oxygen loss. They've been breathing pure N2O. Air is only 20% Oxygen. They'll pass out after one minute, with a stupid grin. If you wish to revive them, give pure oxygen until the grin is gone. But, that's yer decision...
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