Infrared picks up invisible UFOs

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[Lee'sGhost]

Isn't that the tail light pattern of a '67 "Bel Air?

[Sam Cree]

Another discussion of the incident here, Quix, with some interesting comments.

[Bon mots]

I'm curious if those two sets of three dots actually moved in unison or if they moved about individually.

[Sender]

"You're either with the Earth or you're against us."

[Final Authority]

If this pic was taken using a LWIR camera that would normally be used for target acquisition the objects should be in focus and exhibit sharp edges. The objects "light up" in a way that suggests that they are not warm bodies but pseudo point sources of light. These can be simulated by directing a light beam (having LWIR content) onto a partially reflective surface and then using the camera to photograph the reflected images. It would be easy to simulate erratic movement by simply moving the directed beams. The apparent displacement would simulate high speed movement. Another indication of authenticity would be if the background temperature could be determined by data in the IR picture. LWIR cameras often have a radiometric capability to help determine target characteristics. The background should be colder than room temperature by a large margin. If it is not, it is phony. Simply put, from the evidence presented, these are bogus.

[freedomson]

Because you're a veteran freeper I immediately believe you. I have a friend whose word I trust told me about a UFO at a family softball game on Father's day of 1982. He said that they all stopped playing and watched this giant silver disk slowly glide over the field and then accelerate out of sight.

Like your story, at the time it really didn't seem like a big deal to them but later when they thought about it they were amazed and afraid.

Weird , huh?

[A CA Guy]

"Hmm. How do you say "infra-red" in Espanol anyway?"

I think it translates from an english phrase like... "My mother works under a big red light at night!"

[Quix]

'next global threat . . . aliens but it would be a hoax'

is a bit misleading.

The alien part will not be a hoax. Werner von Braun had been told that the ET's would be attacked and cast as evil that we would be fighting for our survival against. Indeed, that most of the Star Wars effort was to fight that coming space war with ET's.

The hoax part as far as Werner von Braun was concerned was that in reality, the ET's were benign to benevolent. I think he's wrong about that.

Werner was reportedly an authentic Christian before his death. He was in charge of our space program having been a Nazi scientist brought over in the last days of WWII.

The ET's whether good or bad will be used by the puppet masters--and perhaps vice versa--to bring about the Biblically warned about global government. THE CONTACT HAS BEGUN goes into quite a bit of detail about one ET race's handling of all that.

[Quix]

Werner did NOT write any of this down. He told his PhD assistant the last 4 years of his life. And, he refused to go into any detail about the puppet masters who told him such. He feared for his life. But he knew he was dying of cancer and wanted the facts of what he'd been told to be disclosed.

The report can be found at the DISCLOSURE site. The below link is not to that page but is to the site. I think one can search for Werner Von Braun on the site.

http://www.karenlyster.com/disproject.html

[buffyt]

I am asking each one of my kids separately so that they can't influence each other. We saw this many years ago in Colorado. My youngest son, who is 20, said he saw a big round UFO with lights all around it. That is exactly how I remember it. It was flat, round, and had lights totally encircling it.

[buffyt]

Kind of like we did. We all saw it, discussed it, saw the SAME thing, and didn't hear anything about it in the news. it was in the middle of the daytime, too. Strange! But now I am a believer.

[Quix]

Thanks. Will check it out.

That was my understanding, too.

[Quix]

That the aliens exist

will not be the hoax.

Some would assert that all aliens are 'merely' demons in genetically engineered bodies. . . that even the craft are demons materializing in craft form. I don't believe that. I suppose it could occur in a limited way for smaller things but not on the wholesale scale of many events.

I don't believe one demon is going to materialize as a craft half a mile to a mile in diameter. Too many things just don't fit.

However, I don't have any doubt that virtually all the better known alien races are fitting in one way or another into what The Bible calls the Great Deception of the end times era. Whether the puppet masters end up casting the aliens as evil and therefore we have to have a world government to fight them

or

that aliens are wonderful and we have to obey them to join the peaceful Intergalactic Federation of Planets

or both

remains to be seen. I've seen plenty of data on both sides. Personally, I think virtually all the aliens that I've read about are at least in cahoots with satan's end time plans.

I could believe that there are ET's wholsale on God's side. But they don't seem to be showing themselves much.

Certainly I believe that 2/3rds of the angels are on God's side and not satan's fallen angel cohorts. Besides that, God could create more with a word.

The major hoax part is that the world government is necessary and that we must comply with it's demands 100%.

God says, choose me or choose satan. Satan says, "worship me."

I think Krapf's book is full of disinformation etc. courtesy of the ET's. I think it is also mixed with truths and half truths. Which is which is a big question.

There was one interesting tidbit in it.

years ago, I had tapes of an 80 year old former missionary to the Amazon region. I can't even remember his name. He claimed to have prayed for 7 years to be able to go to Heaven and come back and tell about it. Eventually, reportedly, he spent 5 earth days in Heaven and returned to tell about it. His description of Heaven was that it was a sphere one million miles in diameter.

Krapf's book didn't exactly describe it as a sphere but it seemed to allude to it being so--but with 12 gates of a big pearl each--rather Biblical, that, in a way. Krapf's book says those ET's stumbled onto Heaven--which is and will always be the biggest structure in all creation. Supposedly the Verdant's 'chief meditator' was transported to the ship parked near Heaven. He went into deep meditation for 7 earth days. At the end of which, he left the airlock without a space suit and entered Heaven. I forget for how long, then he returned the same way. Nothing much more was said about that.

Interesting tales in that book.

Now that THE TRUE TRUTH is, is still a curious question.

[Quix]

Oh give it a rest.

Just because you haven't studied extyensively on the subject; just because it's widely outside of your experience . . .

doesn't mean that the only other alternative is for the author or experiencer to be stoned.

Sheesh.

[Quix]

Would be delighted to have your experiences, stories by FREEPMAIL if you're willing.

[IamConservative]

Does Mexico have an Air Force? I suspect it may somehow involve a rubber band..

[Quix]

30-40 years ago, my close relative who worked routinely around the craft we'd been taught by ET's to build--asserted that we had fleets of them THEN that could go to any spot on the globe under computer control

INSTANTANEOUSLY.

Some were pilotless and some carried people. Supposedly Mainland China was mapped every inch at close range by a recon version.

[Quix]

Actually, at this point in my decades long study,

the amount of FAITH REQUIRED to believe some of the convoluted 'in terms of what's known' explnations

turn out to be sooooooooooooooooo preposterous that
the ET explanation turns out TO BE THE SIMPLEST.

[Quix]

"SWAMP GAS" might seem to be a "simplest" if one didn't think much and hadn't read 100's of reliable reports.

But when one considers the physics of swamp gas and the specifics of actually 10's thousands of reports, swamp gas doesn't turn out to be that simple an explanation after all.

The same with virtually all the other debunker explanations for the authentic cases.

[Quix]

LOL.