The Five Who Beheaded Berg are 'Good' Muslims

The Holy Koran ^

[ambrose]

[2.193] And fight with them until there is no persecution, and religion should be only for Allah

[4.89] They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.

[4.95] The holders back from among the believers, not having any injury, and those who strive hard in Allah's way with their property and their persons are not equal

[4.144] O you who believe! do not take the unbelievers for friends rather than the believers; do you desire that you should give to Allah a manifest proof against yourselves?

[5.51] O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.

[8.39] And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah; but if they desist, then surely Allah sees what they do.

[9.5] So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

[9.11] But if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, they are your brethren in faith

[9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.

[9.30] And the Jews say: Uzair is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!

[9.33] He it is Who sent His Apostle with guidance and the religion of truth, that He might cause it to prevail over all religions, though the polytheists may be averse.

[9.123] O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil).

[Jon Alvarez]

My letter to various editors:

It's time to put "political correctness" to bed and deal with these barbarians as we did with the savagery of the Indians of the Old West and the suicidal madness of the Japanese in WW2. Remember Dresden? We reduced that key German city to rubble. We are the most powerful nation in the world, in possession of the most powerful weapons. We held back so as not to offend the world in Korea and Vietnam, look where that got us. No more! Patience with these madmen has run out! Time to dust off some nukes, start with Fallujah. Peace thru strength.

[Psalm 73]

Islam is a lie from the gates of hell.
It's a physical manifestation of the on-going spiritual warfare spoken of in Ephesians 6.
Like abortion mills, (and many correctional facilities), the Abu Garaihb prison is a stronghold of dark forces.

"For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realm"
Ephesians 6:12

[ChefKeith]

Works for Me.

and with the drop in sea level we might even find Atlantis

(if nothing else the salvage business should be easier for the average joe.)

[Tarheel]

The beheading of Berg is an example of how Islamofascists operate. These terrorists are the same people who want to rule the world by killing and intimidation. Relying on 9th century thinking they do not understand the meaning of civilized behavior.

Are there no normal Moslems? Are there no Moslems who are not tainted by this religion of revenge and violent death? Have they all become caricatures of civilized human beings? Have centuries of bitterness and hatred toward any non Moslem warped the thinking of these people to the point where they are becoming pariahs in the world?

Where are the 'good' Moslems--have we heard from many of them? Have many of them spoken out to condemn these abhorent acts? Or has the meager amount of sympathy and concern expressed amounted to 'lip service'?

The repetition of atrocities, too gruesome to sometimes comprehend, has convinced me that this is the thinking of the majority of Moslems both here and abroad. By not loudly and frequently objecting, by not discontinuing their support of this barbaric behavior, Moslems everywhere, have become subtle terrorists.

The repeated silence of Moslem spiritual and civic leaders is deafening. Frankly, even mainstream Christian leaders are not out right condemning this horrific behavior. When the situation warrants, there is nothing like some old fashioned condemnation. Americans have become too non judgmental, too PC. We do not want to offend. Perhaps the video of Berg's murder will be offensive enough to get some condemnatory reaction from someone besides those of us on FR and Fox.

[Siamese Princess]

Hello, Dennis. Someone wrote in Chronicles magazine (I think before 9-11!) that Mohammed was part John Gotti, part Charles Manson. In other words, Mohammed was a murderous psychopath. Devout Muslims hold Mohammed to be the ultimate model for humanity, which means that good Muslims are to be murderous psychopaths. This explains a great deal about their tyrannical, brutal and corrupt culture.

[Freebird Forever]

We need to pull all civilized people out of the mid-east and just "glass" the whole damned place over and come back in a 100 years or so

I can concur with the first part of your theory, but mucking the place up for 100+ years is not a workable solution.

Think of the Middle East as a home infested with termites, roaches, etc. First , all the valuable living things are removed. Next, the region is tented and GASSED. Finally, the cleaners come in and sweep up all the dead vermin.

[dennisw]

http://216.239.41.104/search?q=cache:24uA7voVQKUJ:www.hvk.org/hvk/articles/0302/171.html.31990.VINCLUDEFIX+%22Trifkovic%22++John+Gotti&hl=en

Islam: Liberal Fiction And Historical Truth
Author: Srdja Trifkovic
Publication: Chronicles: A Magazine of American Culture
Date: February 2, 1999

By implying that only "false prophets" can justify "cold-blooded murder" Mr. Clinton has aptly - albeit unwittingly - summarized Islam's foundations. The beginnings of "prophet" Mohammad's public career are little known to most Westerners, and it is not done to recount his exploits in polite multicultural company. In historical fact that career was marked by a long string of murders, armed robberies and rape, interspersed by a series of "divine" pronouncements of varying coherence. The outsiders - the Jews of Medinah, or his Arabic kinsmen reluctant to accept Mohammad's self-proclaimed divinity - were equally likely to experience his "justice" and "mercy."

When in 626 AD, for instance, six of Mohammad's henchmen murdered an elderly Jew by the name of Abu Rafi in his sleep, they argued afterwards whose weapon had actually ended the victim's life. The "prophet" decided that the person who owned the sword that still had traces of food on it was the winner. Abu Rafi had just finished his dinner before falling asleep, and the fatal slash went through his stomach.

If Abu Rafi's murder was Kristalnacht, Mohammed's attack against the tribe of Banu-'l-Mustaliq, later in that same year, was a decisive step towards Endloesung. His followers slaughtered many tribesmen, and looted thousands of their camels and sheep; they also kidnapped five hundred of their women. The night after the battle Mohammed and his brigands staged an orgy of rape. As one Abu Sa'id Khudri remembered, a slight problem needed to be resolved first: in order to get ransom from the surviving tribesmen, the Muslims had pledged not to violate their captives.

"We were lusting after women and chastity had become too hard for us, but we wanted to get the ransom money for our prisoners. So we wanted to use the Azl (coitus interruptus). . . We asked the Prophet about it and he said: You are not under any obligation to stop yourselves from doing it like that."

The members of the last surviving Jewish tribe in Medinah, Banu Qurayza, were even less fortunate. Mohammad offered the men conversion to Islam as an alternative to death; upon their refusal all nine hundred were decapitated in front of their enslaved women and children. The women were subsequently raped; Mohammad chose for himself one Raihana Bint Amr, whose father and husband were both slaughtered before her eyes only hours earlier. He kept her as his concubine thereafter.

This same man, part Charles Manson part John Gotti, is explicitly acknowledged by all Muslims everywhere - from L.A. to Sarajevo, from Marseilles to Chechnya - to be the paragon of godly, morally impeccable behavior, to be admired and emulated until the end of time. The prevalence of his name among the Muslim men is symbolic of the covenant. His behavior, and that of his followers, was sanctioned in Mohammad's own prophetic revelation, and duly recorded in his "holy book":

[anoldafvet]

Do you actually think the democRATS would allow us to punish these people if we captured them?

[Siamese Princess]

You found the article, Dennis. My back-issue copy of the magazine is in a box in the basement, but I remember that comment about Mohammed. Thanks.

[Siamese Princess]

I forgot to mention that I purchased a copy of the book, The Sword of the Prophet, written by the author of this piece, Srdja Trifkovic (I was glad to see it also in a local public library yesterday!), as well as Robert Spencer's two books.

[StonyBurk]

I rather like the idea of carpet bombing all Mosques with
live pigs.. . and pornographic pics of what "good"Muslims
do when they come to America-alSadr with the prostitutes.
Then doing a psy-ops on the surrounding coutnryside
informing the Iraqi that we will treat those who intend to
harm us like the less than human spawn of Satan they are.
We will hunt them down and before we behead them--we will
allow our women to give them a bath in pigsblood,and feed them a last supper of pig dung.

[ought-six]

"Where exactly would you let off this bomb?"

Mecca, I think. It would get their attention.

[R. Scott]

Rather than convert to Islam, I’d rather stay armed, maintain proficiency and have plenty of ammo. I firmly believe in the right of self defense.

[R. Scott]

By all the gods! I didn’t know Muhammad was a democrat!

[ought-six]

"The repetition of atrocities, too gruesome to sometimes comprehend, has convinced me that this is the thinking of the majority of Moslems both here and abroad. By not loudly and frequently objecting, by not discontinuing their support of this barbaric behavior, Moslems everywhere, have become subtle terrorists."

That's a fact.

[PleaseNoMore]

I suggest the book "Unleashing the Beast" by a Perry Stone to you guys. While this book is a revelation of sorts from Stone regarding his many many years of studying the prophecies of the Bible, it deals with Islam's deep beliefs and superstitions and such. It explains Islam's place in the "last days" before the return of Christ. Even if you aren't religious this book is informative and eye opening. It is plainly written and cuts to the heart of what drives these fanatics. I believe that understanding the history of Islam is important but, I also believe that you have to understand what fuels its fire and keeps it burning.

[Beckwith]

I was raised to be tolerant. Screw that. I'm done.

What I saw of the brutal murder of Nick Berg was these savages screaming "Allah" this and "Allah" that and a bunch more "Allahs". How sick is that? If these people commit such atrocities in the name of their god, then their god is screwed up.

The next person that tells me Islam is a peaceful and tolerant religion is going to get a knuckle sandwich and a kick in the balls.

[scouse]

An Islamic militant website has shown a video purporting to show the beheading of an American in Iraq. The video showed five men in headscarves and ski masks cutting off the man's head with a knife.

Palestinian militants have been parading what they said were body parts belonging to six dead Israeli soldiers. The Israelis were killed when their armoured vehicle was blown up in Gaza City, in an attacked claimed by the Hamas militant group.

Islam is a religion of peace.....Yeah I'm sure it is!

[toomuchcoffee]

How about Mecca?