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Nick Berg's Father and International A.N.S.W.E.R.
Posted on 05/11/2004 9:17:11 PM PDT by clandradio
Slain contractor Nick Berg's father was a signatory on International A.N.S.W.E.R.'s "Call to Action" on March 20, 2004, to "End colonial occupation from Iraq to Palestine."
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KEYWORDS: answer; beheading; berg; decapitation; fellowtravelers; iraq; lefties; murder; nickberg; ramseyclark
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To: clandradio
The irony is terrible if this is true. Doesn't ANSWER support the Iraqi 'insurgents'?
To: Hermann the Cherusker
Nick Berg supported the war and was a Bush supporter according to the local fish wrapper. Unlike his father. The source for that info was his father. It may be true or it may be false.
If true, his dad may have unwittingly made Nick too naive to be wandering about Iraq on his own- in a war zone. And for whatever reasons Nick didn't play things conservatively or else he would have cleared his trip with State first and checked in with US forces on his own without having to be picked up by the police first.
That is, if the story is true that he was first detained by the Iraqi police.
Maybe things will become clear in time. But the story of the Japanese deliberately trying to get themselves taken hostage in order to get Japan to withdraw from the war does make me wonder about this story, too. There are still too many unanswered questions here.
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posted on
05/12/2004 10:28:29 AM PDT
by
piasa
(Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: clandradio
U.S. Denies Holding Beheading Victim
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By ROBERT H. REID, Associated Press Writer
BAGHDAD, Iraq - An American civilian who was beheaded in a grisly video posted on an al-Qaeda-linked Web site was never in U.S. custody despite claims from his family, a coalition spokesman said Wednesday.
The body of Nicholas Berg, 26, was found Saturday near a highway overpass in Baghdad, the same day he was decapitated, a U.S. official said.
Berg, who disappeared April 9, was shown in the video on a Web site bearing the title "Abu Musab al-Zarqawi shown slaughtering an American," referring to an associate of Osama bin Laden (news - web sites) believed behind a wave of suicide bombings in Iraq (news - web sites).
The video posted Tuesday showed a bound Berg in an orange jumpsuit similar to those issued to prisoners held by the American military at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. He was sitting in front of five men, their faces masked, as one read an anti-American text.
After pushing Berg to the floor, the men severed his head using sawing motions with a big knife and held it up for the camera. They said his killing was in response to the abuse of Iraqis at Abu Ghraib prison.
The body of the self-employed telecommunications businessman from West Chester, Pa., was being flown to Dover, Del., on an Air Force plane, the military said.
But unanswered questions remained about Berg in the days before he vanished, as well as where and when he was abducted.
Berg, who was Jewish, spoke to his parents March 24 and told them he would return home on March 30, according to his family in suburban Philadelphia.
But Berg was detained by Iraqi police at a checkpoint in Mosul on March 24. He was turned over to U.S. officials and detained for 13 days, the family said.
His father, Michael, said his son was not allowed to make phone calls or contact a lawyer.
Coalition spokesman Dan Senor told reporters that Berg was detained by Iraqi police in the northern Iraqi city of Mosul. The Iraqis informed the Americans, and the FBI (news - web sites) questioned him three times about what he was doing in Iraq.
Senor said that to his knowledge Berg "was at no time under the jurisdiction or detention of coalition forces."
Michael Berg told The Associated Press, however, that U.S. officials were "playing word games."
"The Iraqi police do not tell the FBI what to do. The FBI tells the Iraqi police what to do. Who do they think they're kidding?" the elder Berg said.
Calls by the AP to police in Mosul failed to find anyone who could confirm Berg was held there. The U.S.-led Coalition Provisional Authority runs Iraq, controlling not only the police, but the military and all government ministries.
FBI agents visited Berg's parents March 31 and told the family they were trying to confirm their son's identity.
On April 5, the Bergs filed suit in federal court in Philadelphia, contending their son was being held illegally by the U.S. military. The next day, Berg was released. He told his parents he had not been mistreated.
Berg's father blamed the U.S. government for creating circumstances that led to his son's death, saying if his son had not been detained for so long, he might have been able to leave Iraq before the violence worsened.
"I think a lot of people are fed up with the lack of civil rights this thing has caused," Michael Berg said. "I don't think this administration is committed to democracy."
Asked for details about Berg's last weeks in Iraq, Senor replied: "We are obviously trying to piece all this together, and there's a thorough investigation." He said he was reluctant to release details but did not say why.
"The U.S. government is committed to a very thorough and robust investigation to get to the bottom of this," Senor said, adding that "multiple" U.S. agencies would be involved and that the FBI would probably have overall direction.
Senor said that in Iraq, Berg had no affiliation with the U.S. government, the coalition or "to my knowledge" any coalition-affiliated contractor. But Senor would not specify why Iraqi police, who generally take direction from coalition authorities, had arrested him and held him.
Police in Mosul "suspected that he was engaged in suspicious activities," Senor said, refusing to elaborate. Berg was released April 6 and advised to leave the country, Senor added.
Berg apparently had an Iraqi in-law in the Mosul area, according to emails to his family.
Brig. Gen Mark Kimmitt said the only role the U.S. military played in Berg's confinement was to liaise with the Iraqi police to make sure he was being fed and properly treated because "he was still an American citizen."
It was unclear whether al-Zarqawi was shown in the Web site video or simply ordered the killing. Al-Zarqawi also is sought in the assassination of a U.S. diplomat in Jordan in 2002, and Washington has offered a $10 million reward for information leading to his capture or killing.
Berg's father, brother and sister wept in their front yard Tuesday when told of the video.
"I knew he was decapitated before," said his father, Michael. "That manner is preferable to a long and torturous death. But I didn't want it to become public."
The father said "there's a better chance than not" that his son's captors knew he was Jewish. "If there was any doubt that they were going to kill him, that probably clinched it, I'm guessing," he said.
Amnesty International condemned the killing as "a serious crime under international law," and said those responsible should be brought to justice.
White House spokesman Scott McClellan said there was "no justification for the deliberate and brutal killing of an innocent civilian."
U.S. officials fear the savage killing might prompt more foreigners working on international reconstruction projects to flee the country.
Since the security situation deteriorated last month, about three out of 10 Americans and other non-Iraqis involved in reconstruction projects financed by the U.S. Agency for International Development have fled Iraq, the USAID director Andrew Natsios told The Associated Press.
Berg's killing happened amid a climate of intense anti-Western sentiment, which flared in Iraq after last month's crackdown on Shiite extremists and the three-week Marine siege of Fallujah west of Baghdad. Anger at the United States swelled with the publication of photographs showing Iraqis abused and humiliated at Abu Ghraib prison, which continue to stir rage throughout the Arab world.
U.S. officials had feared the shocking photographs would endanger the lives of American troops and civilians.
Seven soldiers from the 372nd Military Police Company face charges in the mistreatment of prisoners at Abu Ghraib in a scandal that has sparked worldwide outrage. One of those soldiers faces a court-martial in Baghdad next week, the first to go to trial.
At one point in the video, Berg addressed the camera.
"My name is Nick Berg. My father's name is Michael. My mother's name is Suzanne," he said while seated in a chair. "I have a brother and sister, David and Sara. I live in ... Philadelphia."
The video then showed Berg sitting on the floor, his hands tied behind his back, flanked by the masked men, as a statement was read in Arabic. Berg sat still during the statement, facing the camera, occasionally raising his shoulders.
The men said they had tried to trade him for prisoners at Abu Ghraib.
"For the mothers and wives of American soldiers, we tell you that we offered the U.S. administration to exchange this hostage for some of the detainees in Abu Ghraib, and they refused," one of the men read.
"So we tell you that the dignity of the Muslim men and women in Abu Ghraib and others is not redeemed except by blood and souls. You will not receive anything from us but coffins after coffins ... slaughtered in this way."
After the statement, the assailant directly behind Berg took a large knife from under his clothing while another pulled Berg onto his side. The video showed assailants thrusting the knife through his neck as a scream sounded before the men cut Berg's head off, repeatedly shouting "Allahu Akbar!" or "God is great."
They then held the head up to the camera.
The video is of poor quality, and its time stamp seems to show an 11-hour lapse between when the assailants finish their statement and push Berg down, to when they behead him. That suggests a delay between those two portions of tape posted on the Web site.
The decapitation recalled the kidnapping and videotaped beheading of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl. Last month, Iraqi militants also videotaped the killing of Italian hostage Fabrizio Quattrocchi.
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Associated Press reporter Jason Straziuso contributed to this story from West Chester, Pa.
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posted on
05/12/2004 11:04:59 AM PDT
by
hattend
(Only Libs can find mandatory death in the Constitution (see abortion and T. Schiavo))
To: clandradio
Interestingly enough, Nick berg was a proud supporter of the President and the war.
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posted on
05/12/2004 11:06:05 AM PDT
by
Big Guy and Rusty 99
("I killed them. I killed them all. They're dead, every single one of them . . .")
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To: richandfamous
To: BillF
Read the Third Terroist ...Mcveigh never claimed to be part of the Aryan Nation Church ( whatever that is) nor did he claim to be Christian. So that argument is nothing but a red herring. Moreover, this beheading is in fact the face of Islam as practised by the Wahabis. It can be seen through out the world. Islam is a religion born of violence. It is NOT a religion of peace but of submission. The young Catholic buy beaten to death over a five day period because he would not submit to Islam (this just happened in the last week), the churches being burned, the continuing Muslim slaughters of those who are not followers of Islam, those are the true face of this insidious and hate filled religion. If you live in the US and practise Islam then I suggest you start reading and hearing what is being said and done by your coreligionists.
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posted on
05/12/2004 11:18:29 AM PDT
by
jnarcus
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To: clandradio; All
I haven't read through the posts and hope someone has already posted a correction. The Michael Berg on that ANSWER list is a teacher in SOUTH CAROLINA! Nick Berg's family resides in PA. I think you have these two people mixed up.
To: mtbopfuyn
To: Desecrated
I think Berg was working for Mossad.
Why else would he be detained in country?
To: mtbopfuyn
The Michael Berg on that ANSWER list is a teacher in SOUTH CAROLINA! Nick Berg's family resides in PA. I think you have these two people mixed up.Thanks for correcting me! I'd read that a couple of places on FR yesterday.
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posted on
05/12/2004 12:45:12 PM PDT
by
SuziQ
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To: olde north church
What is this site, my work computer won't give me access, can you give me the link so I can forward it home.
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posted on
05/12/2004 1:36:32 PM PDT
by
angcat
To: clandradio
I guess his fathers DNC card and his Vote for Kerry button didn't impress Zaqahwi (sp).
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posted on
05/12/2004 2:50:12 PM PDT
by
marty60
To: mtbopfuyn
I'm not convinced. Check out post #14 in this thread.
"..Bergs mother, Suzanne, said her son was in Iraq as an independent businessman to help rebuild communication antennas. Berg owned a communications equipment company, Prometheus Methods Tower Service Inc., she said..."
From the list on the linked thread by doug from upland:
"Michael S. Berg, Teacher, Prometheus Methods Tower Service, Inc.,"
That's a pretty serious connection. I mean, what are the odds here?
Qwinn
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posted on
05/12/2004 2:55:40 PM PDT
by
Qwinn
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