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Photos of the Berg Beheading: Warning: Graphic
KTAR ^ | 5/11/04 | KTAR

Posted on 05/11/2004 7:19:48 PM PDT by abu afak

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To: Prime Choice
The French learned long ago (during their bloody revolution) that beheading does not bring about immediate brain death.

The guillotine blade severs the head instantaneously so the brain cells react for several seconds after the event.

Nick Berg's neck was sawed through in a very painful, slow and agonizing manner. But he was dead before his head was completely removed.

61 posted on 05/11/2004 8:09:54 PM PDT by Alouette (Lesson of "The Last Samurai"=Don't bring swords to a machine-gun fight)
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ping
62 posted on 05/11/2004 8:09:57 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: Victoria Delsoul
I guess the media is definitely influential even with the staunchest conservative.

I don't think so, sister. Our "staunchest conservative(s)" are nothing more than Democrat provocateurs stirring up strife and discord among our ranks.

Bank on it.


63 posted on 05/11/2004 8:10:50 PM PDT by rdb3 ($710.96... The price of freedom.)
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To: pierrem15
I consider it a signal honor to be hated by all Arabs everywhere.
64 posted on 05/11/2004 8:12:57 PM PDT by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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To: TomGuy
I just had to question why people seemed to be jumping to the conclusion that the guy was Jewish just because he had a "Jewish sounding name." Like I said, I grew up in that part of Pennsylvanian and I knew two different families named Berg who were definitely not Jewish.
65 posted on 05/11/2004 8:13:22 PM PDT by Eva
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To: sweneop
Perfectly expressed, but you really need help with punctuation.
66 posted on 05/11/2004 8:13:26 PM PDT by willyboyishere
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To: eddie willers
I guess that you think that Nicholas is a Jewish name, too?
67 posted on 05/11/2004 8:14:18 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Eva
Videotaped execution of U.S. Jew may not shake commitment in Iraq (Yes, he was Jewish)
      Posted by abu afak
On 05/11/2004 9:46:13 PM CDT with 8 comments


JTA ^ | 5/11/04 | Joel Berkofsky
Videotaped execution of U.S. Jew may not shake commitment in Iraq By Joe Berkofsky NEW YORK, May 11 (JTA) — The videotaped execution of an American Jewish civilian contractor in Iraq shook members of the Jewish community, but not their commitment to the war on terrorism.

68 posted on 05/11/2004 8:15:22 PM PDT by TomGuy (Clintonites have such good hind-sight because they had their heads up their hind-ends 8 years.)
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To: Ingtar
"infidel pigs"?

I thought in the common parlance they were called "sand-[n-word]s".

69 posted on 05/11/2004 8:16:23 PM PDT by solitas (maybe we SHOULD leave Iraq; targeting ALL the hospitals & schools as we depart: scorched earth.)
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To: CatOwner
Oh come on now, do don't believe that the actions of a few incriminates the rest, now do you? The Muslims are a peaceful people. This is just a sick, isolated incident.

Where's the outrage from the rest of the Muslim world? Hell, I'm still waiting for the outrage -- without the usual qualifications -- for 9/11, and that's more than 2 1/2 years ago!

As for isolated, do you remember Daniel Pearl? How about their fellow islamofascist scum in Hamas: Six IDF Soldiers Dead in Gaza Battle [Hamas terrorists played with the body parts]?

I don't know about you, but I'm sensing a real trend here.

70 posted on 05/11/2004 8:16:29 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick ("If I could shoot like that, I would still be in the NBA" -- Bill Clinton, circa 1995)
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To: Alouette
The guillotine blade severs the head instantaneously so the brain cells react for several seconds after the event.

I wish I'd saved the titles of the journals I read. If memory serves, the physician making the observations noted responses for nearly half a minute. Very disturbing.

71 posted on 05/11/2004 8:17:10 PM PDT by Prime Choice (I'd question John Kerry's patriotism if I thought for a moment he had any...)
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To: abu afak
This is the true face of this cult Islam.

I have several students from Sudan and Egypt all Christians and they are absolutely terrified at what is happening. They have suffered so so much and now they see Americans self flagellating and it sickens and scares them as it does me. Many Americans whose suffering ancestors came from Muslim dominated lands are horrified that the disease of islam has followed them here to the land of freedom.

I am sorry President Bush - there can be no compassion for this inhuman evil entity run amuk in the world.

We need to show force and show it now. We have paid for and developed weapons to use against our enemy. Let us use them forcefully and deliberately.

72 posted on 05/11/2004 8:17:25 PM PDT by eleni121 (Preempt and Prevent---then Destroy)
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To: McGavin999
CBS, David Hackworth, and many of these senators gave these animals the impression we were too weak to carry on this war. CBS, David Hackworth, and many of these senators gave these animals the impression we were too weak to carry on this war.

Hackworth always thinks that the U.S. Armed Forces are too weak.

The cover story for Newsweek magazine for the week of January 21, 1991 was “We Will Win, But…” by “America’s Most Decorated War Hero”. Here are quotes from Hackworth’s January 21, 1991 Newsweek cover story article:

“Casualties won’t be 200 Americans dead a week, as in Vietnam. They will be more than 200 dead an hour in the first round.”

“The aircraft arranged in the Gulf are the wrong mix of aircraft”

“The Iraqis should give a good account of themselves in air attacks.”

“The Abrams M-1A1 tank is a fuel guzzler and a real liability in a roadless terrain”

“For the most part, from rifleman to battalion commander, these dedicated (American) soldiers and Marines have never seen war. And in my judgment they haven’t yet been made hard enough physically and mentally to survive the horror of potential combat with Iraq’s veteran Army.”

As it turned out, Iraq was totally routed at a cost of 137 U.S. dead for the entire war.

73 posted on 05/11/2004 8:17:48 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: Eva
I guess that you think that Nicholas is a Jewish name, too?

I don't know that his name is Nicholas...do you?

And I don't know if they're Jewish or not.
But when I hear hoofbeats, I look for horses....not zebras.

75 posted on 05/11/2004 8:20:16 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: Polybius

76 posted on 05/11/2004 8:20:17 PM PDT by gortklattu
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To: sweneop
Every time I hear someone say we are 'wrong' to use every means we can find to DEFEAT an enemy that wants to destroy us, I wonder what victory they imagine in a moral 'high ground' that has us apologizing to those who take full advantage of our self-control?
You don't stop a bully from terrorizing you by REASONING with him. You stop him by giving back worse than he gave and NOT being intimidated.
Us against them? Damned right! But it is ISLAM that has declared itself against the civilized world. We have a declared enemy that is DETERMINED. PRETENDING that it is not so is stupid and suicidal.
It IS us-against- them. And why shouldn't it be?It is THEY who cannot co-exist in a civilized world. It is THEY who declare jihad. It is ISLAM that has, at it's foundation, violence and terrorism and subjugation.
It cannot be reasoned with, or co-existed with. It refuses to be.
Live by the religion- get judged by the religion.
77 posted on 05/11/2004 8:21:00 PM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam...it's about Islam.)
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To: eleni121
IN Sudan and Egypt they should know.

The Gebocide of Christians in the Sudan (2 million)... and the Governmenbt sponsored Daily Persecution of the Copts is horrendous.

and we Give Egypt $2 Billion a year aid and can't even get them to lay off.

78 posted on 05/11/2004 8:21:23 PM PDT by abu afak (http://www.israelforum.com/board/)
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To: ClearBlueSky
"WHY they are here is the question no one will answer."


That, and why the hell am I supposed to care about the poor Iraqi people's freedom in the first place. I didn't care in March 2003, March 1993, or any other time for these people's freedom. Especially after seeing this video, I still could not give a damn about the Iraqi people.

700+ Americans died giving these Muslim idiots at a chance at freedom and we get rewarded with civilian beheadings, car bombings, and general apathy by the Iraqis who aren't violent. The ones who aren't are doing absolutely nothing elsewhere to hasten their grip on democracy. Screw them and their hellhole of a Muslim shitehouse - we oughta drop a few MOABS on Fallujah and other stinkholes and bring our boys back to guard our borders. These Muslim ass-camels can't handle a democracy and deserve no more favors from us.
79 posted on 05/11/2004 8:21:27 PM PDT by Blzbba
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To: Spann_Tillman
Time to send in some new troops!


80 posted on 05/11/2004 8:22:37 PM PDT by gortklattu
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