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To: Wolfstar
Folks, This video does not need to be shown. To show it would only appeal to certain pornographic sensibilities. The fact is, that by no showing it the effect will be much stronger in two ways. First, because human imagination tends to make up even worse than the actual images would show (not that they aren't sickening and heinous). The slasher movies where the action takes place off camera are far more frightening.

Second, and this is the best reason...

The fact that the media will not show it absolutely proves the case that this barbarism is orders of magnitude worse than the prisoner humiliation images. To show the tape would, thanks to our desensitized viewinng mindset, tend to place the prisoner humiliation and the beheading on an equal par.
29 posted on 05/11/2004 3:34:50 PM PDT by newheart (The Truth? You can't handle the Truth. But He can handle you.)
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To: newheart
The news stations can put the video on their websites.

BUt it must be publicized as much as:

911

and

D Pearl.



34 posted on 05/11/2004 3:42:08 PM PDT by fishtank
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To: newheart
I like the way you think - that's what we need to stress ad nauseum* the way the media played and replayed the "tortures".

*No way is harrassment/humiliation the moral equivalent of beheadings, acid baths, rape rooms, wood chippers etc.

Of course in the muslim world, beheading a subhuman infidel is the equivalent of swatting a fly while islamic toenails clippings are considered holy relics.
35 posted on 05/11/2004 3:44:12 PM PDT by Let's Roll (Kerry is a self-confessed unindicted war criminal or ... a traitor to his country in a time of war)
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To: newheart
We should also Pardon the soldiers. I'm not sure that I want to watch this video....
39 posted on 05/11/2004 3:47:53 PM PDT by PokeyJoe (optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: newheart
The fact that the media will not show it absolutely proves the case that this barbarism is orders of magnitude worse than the prisoner humiliation images.

If Byrd's dragging death in Texas had been videotaped I have no doubt that some American media outlet would have aired the footage (at least on PBS).

50 posted on 05/11/2004 3:56:46 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: newheart
The fact is, that by no showing it the effect will be much stronger in two ways.

No it wont. The event will be forgotten in a week. If we don't win this world war against the savage jihadists, soon enough the American people will be seeing their own neighbors, friends and family being slaughtered in their own streets. We MUST come to terms with the nature of our enemy. 9/11 was not "just like a movie," as I've heard far too often. Neither were all the other atrocities committed by these bloodthirsty savages who want nothing less than our annihilation or conversion.

By failing to provide context and scale to ALL the terrorism-related stories — including the prison story — the media are taking sides. In my opinion, the wrong side.

53 posted on 05/11/2004 3:59:52 PM PDT by Wolfstar (I'm sorry the public shrugged when Clinton said truth depended on what the meaning of IS, is.)
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To: newheart
Folks, This video does not need to
be shown. To show it would only appeal to certain "pornographic sensibilities."

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Ooooo....Don't LQQK!

America is Fun!

Well, let's have fun while our guys are getting butchered.

80 posted on 05/11/2004 4:38:33 PM PDT by Major_Risktaker (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: newheart
NO, the fact that the media will not show it, yet allow lies about how US military abuse compares to what our enemies are doing shows their lies and double standard.

That is why we should criticize the media for this: Their double standard. They never needed to show Abu Graib photos but they did.

88 posted on 05/11/2004 4:46:59 PM PDT by WOSG (http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com - I salute our brave fallen.)
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To: newheart
The media has no problem airing and releasing the Zapruder film and the other film of the JFK assassination. This is the cold hearted killing of a man.

It's not the death that keeps them from airing it.

123 posted on 05/11/2004 8:20:47 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: newheart
To show it would only appeal to certain pornographic sensibilities. The fact is, that by no showing it the effect will be much stronger in two ways. First, because human imagination tends to make up even worse than the actual images would show (not that they aren't sickening and heinous).

You're wrong.

First, I don't have any "pronogrphic sensibilities." I wanted to see exactly what those SOBs did to him for my own information. Simply that and no more.

Secondly, it was worse than my human imagination thought it would be.

It has rekindled my anger from 9/11, which had evolved somewhat of a teary sentimental sadness. Now I remember why we're fighting and what we're fighting for, and how much farther we need to go before it's over.

Did I like watching it? Are you kidding? But I'm glad I did, because now I think I have my head screwed on straight again re the enemy.

145 posted on 05/12/2004 10:30:49 AM PDT by BlessedBeGod ('I went to Vietnam, yada yada yada, I want to be President...")
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