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Hackworth was suppose to name the 17 Senators who were supposedly notified (by constitutents serving in Iraq) of the prisoner abuse long before the pictures surfaced today.

Instead we get this article. Guess we know what political party these 17 must have belonged to or Hack would have published them.

Actually, I read on another thread that Hillary, Byrd, Bill Nelson & Mark Dayton are among those named by uncle William Lawson on MSNBC today.

1 posted on 05/10/2004 12:55:20 PM PDT by Republican Red
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To: Republican Red
Hackworth is a stooge............
2 posted on 05/10/2004 12:57:32 PM PDT by Fighting Irish
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To: Republican Red
By exploiting this it is Hackworth who is denigrating the great sacrifices made by our troops and our country.

That he has no shame is an understatement.

3 posted on 05/10/2004 12:59:15 PM PDT by OldFriend (LOSERS quit when they are tired/WINNERS quit when they have won)
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To: Republican Red
Hack has forgotten his history. Sometimes you have to use "unready" troops. Certain many of the Guard units dispatched to North Africa were not much good. Certainly the garrison troops sent by MacArthur in July, 1950, were not much good. But you have to have SOMEONE!
4 posted on 05/10/2004 1:01:14 PM PDT by RobbyS
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To: Timesink; *CCRM; martin_fierro; reformed_democrat; Loyalist; =Intervention=; PianoMan; GOPJ; ...
Media Schadenfreude and and Media Shenanigans PING

17 Senators were alerted to this issue before Hackworth was. Who are they and when did they know? What is there party affiliation?

5 posted on 05/10/2004 1:01:26 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: Republican Red
Dayton? the same putz who accused Rummy and the CJC Meyers of "supressing" the story..?
6 posted on 05/10/2004 1:01:58 PM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to propagate her genes.....any volunteers?)
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To: Republican Red
Yeah, well, Bush knew in January, so it's all the same.
7 posted on 05/10/2004 1:03:54 PM PDT by Redpower (Come the rapture, we'll have the earth to ourselves!)
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To: Republican Red
Retired Master Sgt. William Lawson, who brought the atrocity story

Funny, hack, that's just how Hildabeast described it in the Senate hearing to Rummy.

Curious that it's okay for Palistinian terrorists to wear women's clothing to shoot up the memorial service for the mother who was gunned down following her children (before her eyes) though.

8 posted on 05/10/2004 1:04:00 PM PDT by glock rocks (Please pray for our patriot armed forces in harm's way - and the families awaiting their safe return)
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To: Republican Red
Hackworth looks like one of those Queer Guys on that show my wife watches for some reason!

And why is that lots of women just adore male homosexuals?
I just don't get it?

9 posted on 05/10/2004 1:05:49 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Republican Red
I know this has nothing to do with the subject at hand, but I've always thought that Hackworth has that "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" look about him...


11 posted on 05/10/2004 1:06:41 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (Because Democrats are liars, they assume Republicans are too...)
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To: Republican Red
In 1965 in Vietnam, I saw a very connected intelligence captain torturing a POW with a field-telephone wire attached to his testicles and decided my personal belief system outweighed his father’s four stars. When I told him I’d shoot him if he didn’t cease and desist, the atrocity came to a screeching halt.

On both occasions, I knew I had the moral right. I’d been taught from the first day I put on a U.S. Army uniform that American soldiers don’t follow unlawful orders and that it was my duty to stop or report an illegal act. I also believed strongly that when dealing with POWs, “There but for the grace of God go I.”

If all this is true, then my respect for him grows.

12 posted on 05/10/2004 1:06:45 PM PDT by AlbionGirl ("We sleep soundly at night because rough men are willing to commit violence on our behalf.")
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To: Republican Red
Hackworth is a hack.
14 posted on 05/10/2004 1:06:58 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Believe nothing you hear and half of what you see.)
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To: Republican Red
..gee...isn't Hackworth a grand fellow....

.../extreme sarcasm

15 posted on 05/10/2004 1:07:13 PM PDT by Khurkris (Ranger On...I'm about to go Scottish/HillBilly jihad on your a** !)
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=== I’d been taught from the first day I put on a U.S. Army uniform that American soldiers don’t follow unlawful orders and that it was my duty to stop or report an illegal act. I also believed strongly that when dealing with POWs, “There but for the grace of God go I.”

Hear hear.

Thank God for those men with integrity who have yet to succumb to the mantra of "I'm personally opposed, but ..."

Lay the blame for this scandal's backfiring where it belongs: on those individuals responsible and their superiors.

16 posted on 05/10/2004 1:07:49 PM PDT by Askel5
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To: Howlin
Something's missing...
17 posted on 05/10/2004 1:08:43 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Republican Red; Texasforever; Southack
Here it is... not much.
Think he's running scared?
18 posted on 05/10/2004 1:09:36 PM PDT by onyx (Rummy's job is winning the war, not micro-managing some damn prison.)
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To: Republican Red
" And these war crimes not only diminish the sacrifices of our gallant soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan, they place the troops at even greater risk"

I - I - I - It's all about ME and my superior knowledge that goes beyond all the military brass. Why don't they check with ME first before making decisions!!

These pictures place our troops at greater risk - so that's why HACKworth made sure they got to the media so they could be exposed to the public?

20 posted on 05/10/2004 1:10:57 PM PDT by LADY J
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To: Republican Red
Hackworth, IMO, could aptly be described as the leftist version of the Dana Carvey character, Churchlady, except his "expertise" is supposedly in military matters.
21 posted on 05/10/2004 1:11:48 PM PDT by Dane
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Retired Master Sgt. William Lawson, who brought the atrocity story to SFTT.org, says the 800th Military Police Brigade is a prime example: “My nephew Chip, who’s been charged with war crimes, wasn’t trained to be a prison guard. He was a part-time soldier marginally trained for even conventional military police (MP) work. But Chip was such a good soldier that he was selected to escort Gen. Myers, the chairman of the Joint Staff, when Chip was guarding the vice president right after 9/11. Myers gave him both great reviews and his personal coin.”

What a crock, poor little Chippy (pictured below)is 37 yrs. old, is a trained prison guard with over 6 years experience and has been rejected by municipal law enforcement agencies for employ. Probably uncovered some psychological problems, like when he pretended an Iraqi prisoner was a 6 point buck without the rack.

24 posted on 05/10/2004 1:14:18 PM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: Republican Red
Send all comments to: teagles@hackworth.com

Header on his website should read X-soldier

27 posted on 05/10/2004 1:15:57 PM PDT by TrueBeliever9 (aut viam inveniam aut faciam (where there is a will - there is a way)
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To: Republican Red
You don't go to war with the army you ought to have, or wish you had. You go with the army you have. If that means drawing on reserve and guard units, thats what you do.

Feel free to blame previous congresses and previous administrations for being in a hurry to spend the peace dividend. But waiting until we rebuilt the army to pre-Gulf War levels wasn't an option. Hackworth's remark that "Mr. Rumsfeld and too many of his generals are into a fast-fix mode..." is not really much of a criticism. It just means that Rumsfeld is doing what he has to do with what he has to work with. Thats precisely why we like him, those of us who like him.

Hack goes on to share his reminiscences of abuses he refused to take part in during past wars, which should be a reminder that such things happen in every war. The temptation has to be resisted in every war. This one is no different.

If some dogface somewhere shot a German soldier in his custody, that is wrong, its something he has to live with after the uniforms come off, if his officers knew about it they should have been courtmartialed, but it does not follow that the Nazis should have been left to rule from Berlin, or that our moral authority to oppose them was lost. If Hack's superiors wanted to shoot a prisoner rather than walk them back to the rear, thats wrong, but it doesn't follow that Seoul should be a Chinese garrison. We expect our soldiers to be men of character, and while that means you don't commit atrocities, it also means you don't lose sight of your moral war aims.

29 posted on 05/10/2004 1:17:57 PM PDT by marron
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