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1st Cavalry detention facility takes pride in its reputation
Stars & Stripes ^ | May 9, 2004 | Terry Boyd

Posted on 05/09/2004 6:24:46 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl


Sunday, May 9, 2004
1st Cavalry detention facility takes pride in its reputation


By Terry Boyd, Stars and Stripes
European edition, Saturday, May 8, 2004



Terry Boyd / S&S
Sgt. 1st Class Douglas Bawden.


Terry Boyd / S&S
Spc. Craig Kois.

CAMP BLACK JACK, Iraq — Just after Sgt. 1st Class Douglas Bawden took over as warden of 29 Palms — a 1st Cavalry Division detention facility — he found himself processing four Iraqis arrested in connection with a rocket-propelled grenade attack.

The April 6 attack in Ashula, outside Baghdad, killed Sgt. Gerardo Moreno, 23, of Terrell, Texas.

Moreno wasn’t just any soldier. He was Bawden’s fellow noncommissioned officer from 1st Cav’s Company C, 1st Battalion, 5th Cavalry Regiment.

Moreno was Bawden’s friend.

“It was tough,” Bawden said. “I had to walk away for a minute and regain my composure, then I walked back over and we got the job done.”

The choice came down to, as Bawden puts it, “the hard right, or the easy wrong.”

Bawden’s Brigade Internment Facility, nicknamed “29 Palms” for the palm-lined canal outside, is one of five 1st Cav detention facilities — one for each brigade. A division internment facility is under construction.

To distance the 1st Cav from allegations at nearby Abu Ghraib, division officials opened 29 Palms’ doors to the media Friday.

But they didn’t choreograph the visit, said Maj. Derik von Recum, 2nd Brigade fire support officer. On any given day, there are a lot of people looking over Bawden’s shoulder. The division inspector general visits regularly, as does the International Committee of the Red Cross.

“We’ve been told numerous times we’re the best prison here, and we don’t want to taint that in any way,” said Spc. Craig Kois, a 23-year-old Chicagoan assigned to Company C, 91st Engineer Battalion.

Abu Ghraib and 29 Palms have little in common.

Abu Ghraib is virtually a city, with nearly 4,000 prisoners, while 29 Palms is the county jail of military lock-ups — a small facility with 15 staff for no more than 18 detainees.

Unlike Abu Ghraib, which was controlled by National Guardsmen from the 320th Military Police Battalion and civilian interrogators at the time of the alleged abuses, active-duty Army units control 29 Palms. Detainees typically stay no more than 96 hours, Bawden said, then are released for lack of evidence, or are sent on to Abu Ghraib.

Philosophically, there is no comparison, said Bawden.

“Now that story is out, whatever we’ve done good here takes two steps back because of those military police,” he said.

His job at 29 Palms is more difficult because of what he termed a “lack of professionalism” at Abu Ghraib.

But asked how much training he got before taking over 29 Palms, Bawden made a circle with his thumb and forefinger and said, “zero.” Whether an Army jail is run properly basically comes down to who’s running it, he said.

Taking over six weeks ago, he said, “I grabbed up every Army regulation [on prison procedures] and read up. I depend on my experience as an NCO. And I know what’s right.”

“If I treat [detainees] bad, I send them back out there with a legitimate reason to hate Americans.”

Bawden doesn’t say it couldn’t happen here. He just says it won’t happen here as long as he’s running 29 Palms.

“I’m not easy to work for,” Bawden said, smiling.

The first thing detainees see are 29 Palms’ rules in Arabic and English including warnings not to touch guards or doctors, and requirements to walk with heads down when out of cells.

Beyond the rules, detainees have some privileges. They can go to the bathroom at any time. They can keep a Quran in their cells. They can ask to come out of their cells into a central open area and stretch. They can eat their Meals, Ready to Eat on picnic tables in a common area.

Then, there are some odd rules.

They don’t get the M&Ms out of MREs “because they’ll eat one M&M at a time, and it takes all day for them to finish,” Bawden said.

Bawden is nearly as tough on his soldiers as the detainees. He doesn’t let soldiers read detainees’ records so they don’t know what that person is accused of.

“I really don’t want to know,” said Kois. “It’s easier to deal with this.”

Bawden’s staff selection process takes only soldiers “who will be professional no matter what,” he said. For him, treating detainees humanely is part altruism, part expediency. The detainees, he said, “are not worth the risk of not going home.”

And his religious beliefs state that whatever happens, “my Lord says their judgment will come.”

In his six-week tenure, Bawden has made a number of changes, including limiting the number of detainees to 15 from as many as 60 and tightening evidence room procedures.

So far, he’s had no records losses, no accidental releases and no violence, he said.

“I’ve raised my voice once.”



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 1stcav; gnfi; goodguys; iraq; iraqipows

1 posted on 05/09/2004 6:24:47 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Stars n Stripes...what else are they gonna say?....its the military's paper...the brass are running for cover and leaving the little players holding the dirty end of the dod stick with their azzes..hanging out in the breeze...

Funny how no "civilian contractor"...interogators who had to know what was going on with the
terrorists they were interogating..blew no whistles nor have they had charges facing them...

Cause they all have something the little guys never get...That nice little "get outta jail free" card...

It is not this so called interogation/humilitation that is disgusting...its the brass all running for cover...blaming the patsies...and then hiding behind the 'good toops' making sure the sheep make the association between the brass and the good troops and the rogue bad troops acting on their own...all this time....

Lenord Pitt Garnell would call this very bad theater..

imo
2 posted on 05/09/2004 6:33:21 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: First_Salute; Cannoneer No. 4; SandRat; MJY1288; xzins; Calpernia; TEXOKIE; Alamo-Girl; ...

CAMP BLACK JACK, Iraq — Sgt. 1st Class Douglas Bawden - warden of 29 Palms — a 1st Cavalry Division detention facility —

Taking over six weeks ago...“I grabbed up every Army regulation [on prison procedures] and read up. I depend on my experience as an NCO. And I know what’s right.”

“If I treat [detainees] bad, I send them back out there with a legitimate reason to hate Americans.”

Bawden doesn’t say it couldn’t happen here. He just says it won’t happen here as long as he’s running 29 Palms.

“I’m not easy to work for,” Bawden said, smiling.


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An American Soldier.

Good news for the good guys!

3 posted on 05/09/2004 6:35:33 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: joesnuffy
Sorry, Joe.

Our military men and women are represented more honestly here by Stars & Stripes and this fine Soldier, than by those few at Abu Gharib and all the mainstream pundits put together.

The facts, as the honorable SOD Rumsfeld would say, are verifiable.

4 posted on 05/09/2004 6:38:43 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
They don’t get the M&Ms out of MREs “because they’ll eat one M&M at a time, and it takes all day for them to finish,” Bawden said.

That's because they take so long to peel.

5 posted on 05/09/2004 6:41:55 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (If we comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable, do we then reafflict the newly comfortable?)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
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1st Cav's Opening Days in Vietnam =


1st Cav's 1st NVA POW's of the War =

http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_collectioin.htm
(Photos)

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6 posted on 05/09/2004 6:44:32 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.LZXRAY.com)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
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or...


http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_collection.htm
(Photos)

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7 posted on 05/09/2004 6:46:39 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.LZXRAY.com)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Unlike Abu Ghraib, which was controlled by National Guardsmen from the 320th Military Police Battalion. . .

I'll be sorry if this story becomes an excuse for active duty guys to pile on reservists. Both active and reserves need to work together well in the current situation in Iraq. (And technically, the 320th MP Battalion is an Army Reserve unit, not National Guard.)

8 posted on 05/09/2004 6:47:44 PM PDT by 68skylark (.)
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To: joesnuffy
Stars and Stripes is a tabloid rag, written by pogues, for pogues, and at the 8th grade reading level. But, it is not a propoganda machine for the folks feeling the heat over this prison abuse crap. Read the letters to the editor that Stars and Stripes publishes. It is disgusting. If any private has the smallest gripe with his chain of command, the paper will publish it in their letters to the editor section. I read letters that made me sick in Stars and Stripes. When our troops were fighting in Operation Anaconda, pukes in stateside support units were complaining about not getting 4-day passes, limited hours of operation for the pool, and making other lame complaints against their chain of command, often naming their battalion commanders in the letters. It is Jerry Springer, in print. Stars and Stripes is no puppet for the military. Its only use is to line a birdcage, in my opinion.
9 posted on 05/09/2004 6:56:47 PM PDT by Voice in your head ("The secret of Happiness is Freedom, and the secret of Freedom, Courage." - Thucydides)
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To: joesnuffy
What color is the sky in your world? You can't possibly live in this one because the facts in your post are so far from reality.
10 posted on 05/09/2004 8:36:13 PM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Gary Owen and She wore a Yellow Ribbon play loudly for the U.S. Cavalry.


11 posted on 05/09/2004 8:46:04 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: joesnuffy
Won't comment on Stars and Stripes and its contents. Won't comment on the brass's behavior or lack of leadership. All I know is that if I were a soldier in that situation, there is no way in heck that there would be any pictures/videos etc. of prisoners and me. No way would there be a record of me behaving in such a manner. Let's face it. Not only are those soldiers immoral/amoral they are downright stupid. There is no excuse for their behavior. None. And then to illegally leak pictures/videos to the public and hurt their brethren and country. They deserve what they get and more.
12 posted on 05/09/2004 9:20:15 PM PDT by Chgogal (We vote early and often in Chicago...usually for the wrong person)
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To: Chgogal
Amen...Punish the guilty, demote the negligent and ineffective overseers and let's support our troops, our President, and win this war.

......AMERICA..HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE
13 posted on 05/09/2004 10:38:02 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
1st Cavalry Division ~ Bump!
14 posted on 05/10/2004 8:04:10 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Bump!
15 posted on 05/10/2004 10:26:00 PM PDT by windchime (Podesta about Bush: "He's got four years to try to undo all the stuff we've done." (TIME-1/22/01))
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