Insulting the memory of FDR [were Japanese internment camps wrong?]

WorldNet Daily ^ | March 20, 2004 | Les Kinsolving

[cyborg]

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[ml/nj]

Certain parts of LI make Deliverance look citified.

Really?

Is this something recent?

I grew up there in the 50's, and pretty much got to every place on the Island except the eastern part of the North Fork. There were lots of potato farms out east but not much inbreeding that I was aware of.

ML/NJ

[cyborg]

Certain parts...not many...maybe it's recent. I won't go out there to find out *LOL* But actually the eastern part of the North Fork is where my mother got lost. I don't know about inbreeding but the nazis are alive and well there.

[ml/nj]

I post Lincoln has lots of friends, in response to your FDR would NOT have won friends if he started locking up white people, and the best you can do is respond with a question mark?

I assume you are aware that Lincoln had many white people imprisioned. (Some of these people were even on the side of the Union, but of course many were not.) And I assume you know that many hold Lincoln in high regard, so I provided Lincoln as a counterexample to your assertion.

ML/NJ

[cyborg]

I am speaking about the social times during the world war. I had a feeling you were referring to Abraham Lincoln but I just wanted more explantion. That's all.

[Condor51]

"Just ask those Marines who regard February 19 as their Day of Remembrance. On that date in 1945 they stormed ashore on Iwo Jima, where more than 6,000 of them died. That's a sacrifice to remember – and honor."

One of those 6,000 was a boyhood friend of my mother. I remember when I was about five and looking through the family photo album, there was this 8x10 picture of a young marine and I asked who it was. She said it was a boy who used to live in the apartment up stairs and died on Iwo Jima.

She also told me that he had a closed casket wake because - HIS BODY WAS BUTCHERED by the japanese.

[wingnuts'nbolts]

Why was it wrong? We were attacked by Japan without a declaration of war. Japan had a God Emperor. Many Japanese were loyal to their God Emperor and provided information to
infiltrators that would have been detrimental to this country. This was true then especially in Hawaii. We did not shoot or gas them, FDR simply put them somewhere where they could not hurt us. Not fair? Oh well, lots of things are not!

[Condor51]

Just give me this Kinsolving guy, Manzanar, and I'm in the guardtower with a firearm and he wants to come too close to the fence. I'll show him what a concentration camp is like. You'd better believe buddy! Let me at him.

Interesting comment. Can you expound?
And who's 'Manzanar'?

Thanks

[cyborg]

okay.

[hoot2]

"Did you bother to read the article before posting?"

that was my thought too?
maybe there is something to that "ozone hole theory"...

[sargon]

IMHO, those concentration camps were illegal, FDR and the Supreme Court's tyranny notwithstanding.

I'm not aware of a single Japanese American who was charged with any war-related crime during that period.

They were simply presumed to be potentially disloyal because of their ethnicity, in disregard of their American citizenship and INDIVIDUAL rights.

The internment camps were an abomination, and so was FDR.

How could anyone endorse such statist, anti-individual, hysterical Tyranny?

Contrast this with the present day, where those who are "rounded up," at least, are individuals, and who have raised, at a minimum, some level of reasonable suspicion.

Methinks there are some around here who would like to put all American Muslims in concentration camps.

It was wrong then, and it would be wrong now...

[Condor51]

German Americans were treated well. It was racism,pure and simple.

With all due respect, that's incorrect. Germans were interned and sent to camps as well - and so were Italians. The untold story of German-American internment

That's only one reference, and here's a quote from another source, "The World War II experience of thousands of German Americans, to most, is an unknown."
World War II - The internment of German American civilians

[ChadGore]

I judge FDR on the results.

At a time when the country was in total and complete War in 2 countries, how many japaneese terrorist attacks did we suffer on our soil ?

None. Thus I guage the decision as a sound wartime decision.

[G.Mason]

No.

[cyborg]

That was wrong. Even so, a German could pass as a regular white American if they so chose to do and avoid such internment. I don't get the mentality of people who justify locking up people who have nothing to do with a war.

[cyborg]

I find the hypocrisy of some amazing with regard to locking up Americans based upon their ethnicity esp. those that espouse gun rights, property rights,etc.

[Mears]

If I recall the Germans that were held were mostly adult aliens.

Many of the Japanese were citizens and the entire family was interned,including children.

[pbear8]

The Japanese Americans were treated poorly and German Americans were treated well.

I remember hearing that FDR wanted to round up the German-Americans too but that there were too many of them.

While relocation was far from an ideal solution, there were ways of avoiding it, moving out of the exclusion zone. War is always Hell and mistakes are always made. However, my husband's great-uncle ran one of the relocation camps in AZ. His wife tells of the excellent treatment those living there received. They weren't marched to death and they weren't put in ovens.

Nothing is ideal in this world, but life could have been much worse for those who were relocated.

[CounterCounterCulture]

I posted this two years ago...
60th Anniversary of Japanese Internment by FDR - Executive Order 9066

[John H K]

Well, they wanted to relocate all the Japanese-Americans on Hawaii, but found out it was 1) Logistically impossible and 2) Hawaii couldn't function without them.

Even J. Edgar Hoover was opposed to the internments, and he was hardly some namby-pamby do-gooder.

There was actually a Japanese intel network among some Japanese-Americans, and it's true you could leave the internment camps at any time if you could find a job or school not on the West Coast, but still; you had American citizens forced to sell their farms and businesses on the west coast and moved to camps without any SPECIFIC evidence against them. Just can't do that under any circumstances.