THE GHOUL NEXT DOOR WAS JAIL ABUSE FOTOG

New York Post ^ | 5/09/04 | ALY SUJO

[kattracks]

The shocking photos of U.S. soldiers abusing Iraqi prisoners that rocked the world were snapped by a former pizza-house manager who grew up exposed to gruesome pictures of dead people, according to a published report.

Spc. Sabrina Harman, 26, an MP at the infamous Abu Ghraib prison, has been accused by the Army of taking pictures of a nude human pyramid.

[Anti-Bubba182]

"..The young soldier's family said she's always had a fascination with stomach-churning photography.

Growing up, her homicide detective dad and forensic science buff mom constantly shared with their daughter grisly crime-scene photos.

"She has been looking at autopsies and crime-scene pictures since she was a kid," Robin Harmon told the paper.

She said her daughter claims she took the photos at Abu Ghraib as evidence of the atrocities being committed there. .."

Sounds contradictory to the bold if she was fascinated by, "stomach-churning photography".

[Madstrider]

Before being called into active duty, Sabrina was an assistant manager at a Papa John's Pizza.

Right. It figures. Troops named "Sabrina" undermining national security by abusing prisoners (and photographing the abuse) are obviously top-drawer types. This scandal just keeps getting more and more absurd.

[Leroy S. Mort]

She said her daughter claims she took the photos at Abu Ghraib as evidence of the atrocities being committed there.

Among hundreds of digital pictures passed around Sabrina's MP unit, one shows a smiling Harmon crouching slightly, a thumb up, and leaning toward a blackened, decaying corpse with long fingers and a gaping mouth. The photo was taken at a makeshift combat morgue, her family said.

Bit of a disconnect there............

[bikerman]

Another poor me it wasnt my fault blame someone else I wasnt trained,its my parents fault,Keep the women out of the service.Wonder how much this book deal is going to be worth?

[kattracks]

Sounds contradictory to the bold if she was fascinated by, "stomach-churning photography".

Yes, it does. It also makes one wonder, since these photgraphs made their way to the media, if the motives beind taking them had less to do with "exposing atrocities", and more to do with monetary gain.

These people in he military who are claiming to only be following "orders' seem to have had no aversion to gleefully posing for the camera.

[HankIngram]

Another woman. More irony considering the way Muslims treat their women.

[Anti-Bubba182]

"Bit of a disconnect there............"

Several that I see, but we Freepers are used to a Clintonian Quality of BS. The girl doesn't have the practice or inate ability.

[zarf]

I can see it now:

Sabrina will be the hero of the Goth set...hosting the new Saturday morning "Creature Feature" then moving up to be host of ABC's new forensic series "Quincy's Daughter, Medical Examiner".

She will be rich girl.

[auggy]

What can I say?

It's our first digital war.

[csvset]

Growing up, her homicide detective dad and forensic science buff mom constantly shared with their daughter grisly crime-scene photos.

"She has been looking at autopsies and crime-scene pictures since she was a kid," "She has no clue what people are really like. She thinks everyone is good."

Mom certainly has a disconnect in her story.

How could you view photos of "grisly crime-scene photos" and yet "think eveyone is good" ? I'm not buying it Ma.

[zarf]

After seeing the way "liberated" American women are behaving....like testosterone laden teens...is it any wonder the Arab world wants nothing to do with our culture?

I would think there's a nice feminine middle ground between dykes on bikes and burka wearing slaves.

[dennisw]

Any photos of this "torture" babe?

[Anti-Bubba182]

Possibly, but probably it has more to do with her fascination
with that kind of image and later when the investigation was
going bad for the perps, the images were released by those
acting on behalf of Sergeant Frederick to 60 Minutes II for
the purpose of spreading the blame so that they individually
don't look so bad, were following orders, etc.

[Madame Dufarge]

"They're passing the buck, putting it all on the little kids," she said

You don't put unqualified kids in that situation."

"She just moved out [of the house] two years ago," Robin said. "She has no clue what people are really like. She thinks everyone is good."

Maybe it's me, but I don't think of a 26-year old woman as a "little kid."

And what's going on with parents who apparently want their offspring to remain a child forever, yet see nothing wrong with showing their daughter grisly crime scene photos was she really was a little kid?

This is very bizarre.

[.cnI redruM]

Wonderful, the WOT has been turned into some sick, loser pervert's own personal Blair Witch Project.

[Greenpees]

Scapegoat:

What one calls themselves, or thier loved ones, when they refuse to take responsibility for thier own actions.

Yep, she is just a "kid" that wanted to "save the world", but that bad ol' Bush turned her into a creep. BS! She was in no way a victim of anything.

Guess what Mommy, your kid just made 130,000 good, patriotic, soldiers look like undisciplined punks to a world that was just learning that our troops are devestatingly consumate professionals. They were to be respected, if not feared for thier skill and undaunted courage. A far cry from Osama bin Laden's description of us in '96.

Those proud soldiers now have to gain back everything your kid lost for us by playing to a controversy fed media. They'll do it, of course, but no thanks to you. Now, to add insult to injury, your gonna sit there and shift the responsibility onto someone else. It didn't look to me that she was "saving" anything, but having fun at the expense of her nation's reputation.

Stupid camera.

[Quilla]

I agree with many of the comments describing elememts of this story as contradictory and disconnected. I know you peruse The New York Post regularly, do you recall posting articles in the past by Aly Sujo? To have discovered who took many of these photos is an incredible journalistic find, but the story just doesn't read like the The Post.

[melsec]

If what her parents are saying is true then it ought to be beared out by her emails. If not that put her jail.

There are always some people in any conflict who will do this to prisoners. It happened in WWII as well as Nam. People were not stupid enough on the whole to take pictures of it and they didn't have the capacity to shoot video footage. A friends Father fought with the British Army in WWII. I think he said he was with the Black Watch. Anyway they used to do covert opps, etc - you know behind any lines stuff. During one mission they got into a firefight with a small patrol of Germans. The Germans surrendered to them. You know as well as I that covert opps do not have the capacity to take prisoners and also they could not be discovered unitl after their mission was complete. They were all hearded of to a nearby cliff and machine gunned.

Now this might not be in the Spirit of the Geneva Convention.

Sometimes in war stuff happens not good stuff nor even legal stuff just don't point a camera at it!!!

[visualops]

Isn't the giving and witholding of priviledges a tried and true method to coerce cooperation without harming someone? Why is there a problem with denying a prisoner cigarettes? Sleep deprivation is another very effective method that does no long term harm. Just how are we supposed to interrogate, by saying "pretty please tell us what you know"? I am not condoning sexual abuse or other disgusting acts. But, to throw the baby out with the bathwater is stupid.