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Fingerprint links Oregon with Spain
Oregonian Live ^ | May 08, 2004 | Marc Larabee, Steven Beaven, Kathleen Blythe, Bryan Denson and Lori Tobias

Posted on 05/08/2004 2:36:59 PM PDT by Grampa Dave

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To: blam
The guy was suing an older couple for $206,000 for psychological trauma when their car hit his. We gave him $562.00 for the damage to his car. (I loved it!)

I sure wish I could get on a jury and wreck months of wicked scheming by some piratical trial lawyer. I've never made it through voir dire, however. Got another chance coming up, so I'll keep my mouth shut and see what happens....

81 posted on 05/08/2004 10:05:25 PM PDT by ccmay
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To: CurlyDave
All cell phones in Europe use SIM cards.

T-Mobile, part of the Deutsche Telekom behemoth, offers SIM cards in the US.

As I understand, T-Mobile has penetrated the US market very effectively in the Pacific Northwest.

SIM cards figure prominently in the Madrid bombings.

82 posted on 05/08/2004 10:32:48 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: Grampa Dave; B Knotts
Thanks for the ping, Gramps.
I see B Knotts answered your ElF/ALF question.
This guy is interesting...

"One of Mayfield's attorneys, Tom Nelson..."

Check this out.

POW: Ashley (Pennsylvania) guard beat me

"Attorney Thomas Nelson of Portland, Ore., filed the claim. It said Shaltout entered Iraq in January 2003 as a member of a peace organization called Rights and Freedom International. The organization tried to convince Iraqi leaders to step down to avoid war with the United States, the claim said."

Read the article. I was surprised to see that name show up.

83 posted on 05/08/2004 10:33:26 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (President Bush is a mensch in cowboy boots.)
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To: Grampa Dave
Enjoy yourself Sunday .
84 posted on 05/08/2004 10:43:21 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: Grampa Dave
From the Wichita Eagle:

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Posted on Sun, May. 09, 2004

Spain raises doubts over fingerprint


Spanish authorities are skeptical of a U.S. report that a print tied to the deadly Madrid bombings is a "bingo match" for a former Kansan.

Eagle news services

The newspaper El Pais reported Saturday that Spanish investigators have serious doubts about whether the fingerprint found on a plastic bag tied to March 11 explosions on commuter trains is that of former Kansan Brandon Mayfield.

The report said Spanish forensics experts found only eight points of similarity between the print and the one of Mayfield held in U.S. files because he is a former Army officer.

The FBI said it found 15 such points, El Pais said.

The Portland, Ore., lawyer and father of three has not been charged with a crime, and U.S. authorities have stressed that their investigation is at an early stage.

Spanish police have been intrigued by the possibility of a U.S. connection to the Madrid bombings ever since FBI agents informed them more than three weeks ago that a fingerprint found on a plastic bag of detonators left by the bombers appeared to match Mayfield's.

But senior Spanish law enforcement officials said their own forensics experts remain unconvinced.

"The experts here in Spain... still have doubts about the fingerprint," the senior Spanish official said.

The FBI thinks the print on the bag, which was found in a van abandoned by bombers at the suburban station where they boarded the trains, matches Mayfield's conclusively, according to a U.S. law enforcement official.

"My understanding is it's a bingo match," the U.S. law enforcement official said.

The FBI fingerprint examination was made by an analysis team that may have found Mayfield's print either in a database related to previous terror cases or in his military file, officials said. The FBI analysts also found indications that whoever left the fingerprint on the bag involved in the Madrid bombings had some connection to the Yugoslav province of Kosovo, where international Islamic extremists have been active.

Mayfield, 37, was arrested at his Oregon law office Thursday as a material witness in the bombings, which killed 191 people and wounded 2,000.

He grew up in and around Halstead, about 30 miles north of Wichita, where much of his family still lives. He attended law school in Topeka after serving in the Army.

Mayfield's military background particularly interests Spanish police because they think someone with military experience may have provided training or advice about the assembly of the remote-control backpack bombs used in the attacks.

But Spanish police say they have not turned up any sign so far that Mayfield was in Spain during the time the bombings were plotted and carried out, two senior officials said.

Nor have Spanish police found evidence that Mayfield had meetings, phone conversations or Internet communications with any of the two dozen bombing suspects, a predominantly Moroccan group of Islamic extremists with limited ties to Americans or the United States.

In a report prepared more than three weeks ago by Spanish police about the lead involving Mayfield, he was described as a U.S. military veteran who was already under investigation by U.S. authorities for alleged ties to Islamic terrorism.

It is not known why Mayfield was being investigated, though the mosque where he worshipped was also attended by defendants in another terrorism case. Known as the "Portland Seven," the six men and one woman have pleaded guilty to federal charges of conspiring to wage war against the United States.

One of the men was a client of Mayfield in a child custody case.



85 posted on 05/08/2004 11:38:52 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: dixiechick2000; aposiopetic; VOA; Tailback
From the Wichita Eagle article I posted above.

The FBI fingerprint examination was made by an analysis team that may have found Mayfield's print either in a database related to previous terror cases or in his military file, officials said. The FBI analysts also found indications that whoever left the fingerprint on the bag involved in the Madrid bombings had some connection to the Yugoslav province of Kosovo, where international Islamic extremists have been active.

Getting more interesting~!

86 posted on 05/08/2004 11:44:09 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: dixiechick2000; Grampa Dave; Diddle E. Squat
I've noticed pro-Palestinian and anti-Jewish writings,links,etc. on some of the few animal right's websites I've looked at.

I think we'll find that some of our enviro-terrorists are friends with some of the Islamic terrorists.

Might be interesting to find out if Mayfield or Nelson have had many dealings with animal rights groups or other enviro types.

87 posted on 05/09/2004 12:00:04 AM PDT by Free Trapper (One with courage is often a majority.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"The FBI analysts also found indications that whoever left the fingerprint on the bag involved in the Madrid bombings had some connection to the Yugoslav province of Kosovo, where international Islamic extremists have been active."

Wow! Getting more interesting is exactly right!
BTW, I wonder how the Spaniards extract information. It was said on FNC today that 18 suspects have been arrested, and they are surely gaining information from those interrogations. I wonder if THEY have pictures of their 'interrogations'.
Thanks for the ping.

88 posted on 05/09/2004 12:10:12 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (President Bush is a mensch in cowboy boots.)
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To: Free Trapper
That is definately something to ponder.

They are two groups with the same goal...
the destruction of the USA.

Could you provide some links?
TIA
89 posted on 05/09/2004 12:14:00 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (President Bush is a mensch in cowboy boots.)
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To: dixiechick2000
Sorry,no links.Bad computer skills and a sick computer are keeping me from even trying. :(

Some of the animal right's sites I've seen in the past that had pro-Paly stuff on them were European.Don't remember if there were similar things on U.S. animal right's sites or not.

90 posted on 05/09/2004 12:42:46 AM PDT by Free Trapper (One with courage is often a majority.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Halstead,Kansas,Mayfield's home town is not a long ways from where Terry Nichols lived.

Likely just a coincidence.

91 posted on 05/09/2004 1:32:16 AM PDT by Free Trapper (One with courage is often a majority.)
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To: Grampa Dave
""He told me over the phone that he figured they were probably watching him,"

A guilty conscience needs no accuser.

92 posted on 05/09/2004 1:49:18 AM PDT by NetValue (They're not Americans, they're democrats.)
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To: Grampa Dave
"He met her while on duty at Ft Lewis, Washington."

That is where the DC sniper John Muhammad was training. What goes on at the Washington-Oregon area with so many Islamic converts who turn violent against America???

93 posted on 05/09/2004 2:06:48 AM PDT by NetValue (They're not Americans, they're democrats.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"The FBI said it found 15 such points, El Pais said."

Does anyone know how many matching points it takes to be considered a 'perfect' match? (15 matching points seems like a lot)

94 posted on 05/09/2004 5:24:32 AM PDT by blam
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To: NetValue
Mayfield met Mona on a blind date. I'm trying to imagine someone introducing a Muslim to a Christian, particularly in an area which is loaded with Muslims.

It's one of those: "What's wrong with this picture?" (I think he was a Muslim activist BEFORE he married her).

95 posted on 05/09/2004 5:26:29 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: NetValue
BOTH Mayfield and sniper John entered the army at Ft. Lewis in 1985.

They both married Muslim women in 1988. They both converted to the Muslim religion.

They both left the military in 1994.

Both are connected to IMMIGRATION though in different capacities (The sniper ran his own agency :-).

They both kept low profiles.

They're both anti-establishment and pro-Muslim.

96 posted on 05/09/2004 5:38:53 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: VOA
Me thinketh I haveth no idea what that meanteth. Verily.
97 posted on 05/09/2004 5:49:21 AM PDT by imfleck
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To: Sacajaweau
bump !

98 posted on 05/09/2004 6:24:49 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is ONLY ONE good Democrat: one that has just been voted OUT of POWER ! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Pharmboy
Remarks like that bring up the following:

What do you call 25 sky diving lawyers?

A Skeet Shoot!
99 posted on 05/09/2004 6:57:48 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (FReep eye for the liberal lie or what left wing lies of the media will we expose today?)
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To: blam; Ernest_at_the_Beach
Your comment below seems to be woven into the fabric of most threads on this POS:

"All they want to say is what a 'sweet boy' he is and bad ol' Ashcroft and Bush are out of control."
100 posted on 05/09/2004 6:59:09 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (FReep eye for the liberal lie or what left wing lies of the media will we expose today?)
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