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Soldier's Family Set in Motion Chain of Events on Disclosure [Hackworth involved in CBS photos]
NY Times ^ | 5/8/04 | James Dao and Eric Lichtblau

Posted on 05/07/2004 11:02:41 PM PDT by saquin

CUMBERLAND, Md., May 7 — Ivan Frederick was distraught. His son, an Army reservist turned prison guard in Iraq, was under investigation earlier this year for mistreating prisoners, and photographs of the abuse were beginning to circulate among soldiers and military investigators.

So the father went to his brother-in-law, William Lawson, who was afraid that reservists like his nephew would end up taking the fall for what he considered command lapses, Mr. Lawson recounted in an interview on Friday. He knew whom to turn to: David Hackworth, a retired colonel and a muckraker who was always willing to take on the military establishment. Mr. Lawson sent an e-mail message in March to Mr. Hackworth's Web site and got a call back from an associate there in minutes, he said.

That e-mail message would put Mr. Lawson in touch with the CBS News program "60 Minutes II" and help set in motion events that led to the public disclosure of the graphic photographs and an international crisis for the Bush administration.

It is still not entirely clear who leaked the photos and how they got into the hands of a "60 Minutes II" producer. What is clear, however, is that the furor over the photos is unlikely to dissipate any time soon.

And it may only get worse.

Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld disclosed Friday that there were "many more photos" and videos of abuse that have not yet become public. And he acknowledged in Senate testimony that the military might have mishandled the affair by not alerting members of Congress and the public to the growing seriousness of the military's investigation into the abuses before the images became public on "60 Minutes II."

"I wish I had been able to convey to them the gravity of this before we saw it in the media," Mr. Rumsfeld said.

The irony, Mr. Lawson said, is that the public spectacle might have been avoided if the military and the federal government had been responsive to his claims that his nephew was simply following orders. Mr. Lawson said he sent letters to 17 members of Congress about the case earlier this year, with virtually no response, and that he ultimately contacted Mr. Hackworth's Web site out of frustration, leading him to cooperate with a consultant for "60 Minutes II."

"The Army had the opportunity for this not to come out, not to be on 60 Minutes," he said. "But the Army decided to prosecute those six G.I.'s because they thought me and my family were a bunch of poor, dirt people who could not do anything about it. But unfortunately, that was not the case."

Many of the incriminating photographs appear to have been taken on a digital camera by a soldier in the 372nd Military Police Company who is now facing a court-martial. From there, they appear to have circulated among military personnel in Iraq via e-mail and computer disks, and some may have found their way to family members in the United States.

But there are still numerous unresolved questions about the photographs. One is why they were taken. Some officials suggest that soldiers wanted the photographs as souvenirs, but some relatives said they believed that the photographs were going to be shown to other prisoners to pressure their cooperation.

Then there is the question of how the photographs became public.

Lt. Gen. Lance Smith, deputy commander of forces in the region, testifying Friday before Congress, said he was still unclear how that happened. "It was a surprise that it got out," General Smith said.

Military officials were aware of two disks with photographs on them that were part of continuing investigations, one in Iraq and another in Washington, he said.

"That was the limit of the pictures, and we thought we had them all," General Smith said.

Producers at "60 Minutes II" are not saying exactly how they got the photographs. But Jeff Fager, the executive producer, said, "We heard about someone who was outraged about it and thought that the public should know about it."

Digital cameras have become so ubiquitous in the military that many relatives of personnel in the 372nd and other units in Iraq said they routinely received photographs by e-mail. But the photographs were usually tourist-type photographs of smiling sons and daughters, relatives said.

Officials said that the photographs showing psychological or physical abuse numbered in the hundreds, perhaps more than 1,000, with Mr. Rumsfeld hinting Friday that more may come out.

Among some prison personnel in Iraq, the photographs were apparently an open secret. "Some soldiers in Iraq had them — I'm hearing that soldiers were showing them to everybody," Mr. Lawson said. He said he did not have the original photos and did not turn them over to anyone.

The photographs have now turned soldiers like Mr. Lawson's nephew, Staff Sgt. Ivan Frederick, and Pfc. Lynndie R. England into graphic symbols of military abuse. But for Mr. Lawson, they are evidence of a complete breakdown in training and authority in the Iraqi prison system.

He shared his frustration in his March 23 e-mail message to Mr. Hackworth's Web site, writing: "We have contacted the Red Cross, Congress both parties, Bill O'Reilly and many others. Nobody wants to touch this."

Less than five weeks later, images of his nephew — interviewed on "60 Minutes II" with Mr. Lawson's help — would be shown around the world. Far from untouchable, the story would become unavoidable.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2004electionbias; 60minutes; abugerbil; agitprop; bushhaters; cbs; ccrm; crazyivan; dontaskdonttell; hacknut; hackworth; iraq; iraqaftermath; iraqipow; iraqipowphotos; ivanfrederick; jailhouselawyers; loathesthemilitary; media; mediabias; moralrelativism; prisonabuse; propaganda; saddamites; therestofthestory
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To: mystery-ak
My opinion of the military reserve system is just that. I didn't ask you to give a oath of allegence to it. Nor do I expect you to ask the same of me for your opinion.
421 posted on 05/08/2004 4:12:09 AM PDT by Robert Drobot (God, family, country. All else is meaningless.)
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To: Texasforever
Hack is jealous it wasn't him rolling naked on the floor with other Iraqi men. Poor baby!
422 posted on 05/08/2004 4:14:05 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Robert Drobot
If you refuse to apologize for your uncalled for condemnation of the reservists who are fighting and risking their lives for you, then you are an ungrateful fool.
423 posted on 05/08/2004 4:14:17 AM PDT by DugwayDuke
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To: leadpenny; MEG33
Are you guys checking out Washington Journal on C-Span.
424 posted on 05/08/2004 4:14:22 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat
I'm attached, yes. Good discussion going on.
425 posted on 05/08/2004 4:16:44 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: Fledermaus
You should read the report. Some of the inmates were sodomized with chemical light-sticks, and maybe a broomstick.
426 posted on 05/08/2004 4:18:22 AM PDT by walden
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To: TexKat
Where was that article from.Some dunce just called in.I don't watch anymore
427 posted on 05/08/2004 4:18:23 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: Peach
I agree on both points.
428 posted on 05/08/2004 4:19:19 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: MEG33
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429 posted on 05/08/2004 4:21:24 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: Robert Drobot
That's fine..you are entitled to your opinion...I'll pass along your sentiments to my hubby, who is a 1sgt of a Chinook NG unit that has just returned from 15 mos in Iraq...his unit out-performed the *regular* AVN units and was so honored by the DOD.
430 posted on 05/08/2004 4:23:38 AM PDT by mystery-ak (*They are all Pat Tillman's*........Rushl)
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To: TexKat
What lesson do you draw from that excerpt?
431 posted on 05/08/2004 4:25:18 AM PDT by Barlowmaker
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To: saquin
Many of the incriminating photographs appear to have been taken on a digital camera by a soldier in the 372nd Military Police Company who is now facing a court-martial. From there, they appear to have circulated among military personnel in Iraq via e-mail and computer disks, and some may have found their way to family members in the United States.

I don't buy this for a minute. All correspondence is checked, is it not?

432 posted on 05/08/2004 4:27:09 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (Forget ANWR -- Drill Israel!)
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To: mystery-ak
who is a 1sgt of a Chinook NG unit that has just returned from 15 mos in Iraq..

How great has that been?

Welcome Home, Top!

433 posted on 05/08/2004 4:27:48 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: MEG33
I just watched Ellen Ratner on FNC and she articulated (without knowing it) the DNC's agenda with regard to the abuse photos.

Asked whether Rumsfeld should resign, Ellen said no because he would just take the fall for the president and then it would be over.

The Democrats have been looking for something and this may well be it. They have their Kerry moment and they want to: 1) take down the president; and 2) get us out of Iraq permanently.
434 posted on 05/08/2004 4:28:39 AM PDT by Peach
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To: leadpenny
The jerk that just called in says it's a Jewish plot and we sent those troops over there knowing they'd be anti muslim. He had a soft southern accent, not Middle Eastern.THAT's why I don't listen ...it's like listening to trolls!
435 posted on 05/08/2004 4:30:17 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: leadpenny
It's been great...still adjusting to having him home...he's on 30 day leave before he returns to work as a tech inspector for Blackhawks.
436 posted on 05/08/2004 4:31:51 AM PDT by mystery-ak (*They are all Pat Tillman's*........Rushl)
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To: Peach
The Democrats have been looking for something and this may well be it. They have their Kerry moment and they want to: 1) take down the president; and 2) get us out of Iraq permanently.

It's not going to work Peach. Rummy has nearly 70% support (i.e. should not resign) in Thursday's ABC Poll. The more the media and Democrats exploit this, the more these images are shown, the more Americans will turn against the media and the Democrats.

Americans outside the beltway, who don't descend into sewers like DU, remember 9/11.

437 posted on 05/08/2004 4:32:08 AM PDT by Barlowmaker
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To: MEG33
Know thy enemy!
438 posted on 05/08/2004 4:32:20 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: Peach
"Unlike Bush,when I become President I won't be the last to know"....Kerry speech I heard.

The poll shows 69% of Americans want to keep Rumsfield.Ratner is uberliberal.She may write the talking points for the dems!
439 posted on 05/08/2004 4:34:36 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: Barlowmaker
9/11 did indeed change things and hopefully Republicans won't join the "cut and run" crowd.

Does anyone have any idea how many soldiers are involved in this abuse mess? It's criminal that a small number have so affected our worthy goal in Iraq and the M E.
440 posted on 05/08/2004 4:35:04 AM PDT by Peach
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