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Bush should start by firing Rumsfeld
New York Times via Houston Chronicle
| May 5, 2004, 10:31PM
| By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN
Posted on 05/06/2004 12:10:24 AM PDT by weegee
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We are in danger of losing America as an instrument of moral authority and inspiration in the world. I thought that the damned intellectuals in this world have told us time and time again that we have no business imposing our morality on anyone. If America loses it's moral authority, is there any change in our position in this world?
I have never known a time in my life when America and its president were more hated around the world than today. I was just in Japan, and even young Japanese dislike us.
I have never known a time in my life when so much of the Western world is so willing to embrace Socialism. The fall of the Soviet Union should have sounded the death rattle but Communism and sister Socialism continue to captivate nations.
America wasn't too popular when the colonies rebelled against the crown. America wasn't too popular when the Japanese decided to attack Pearl Harbor over American "imperialism". Lord Haw Haw told us that "Roosevelt's Jews" were dooming American soldiers fighting a war they had no point being in (and couldn't win).
Joseph Stalin and other communist dictators had no love of America.
I read the final book (compiled from notes) by Dee Dee Ramone of the band The Ramones. It covers the 1990s until just a little after 9.11.2001. "Dee Dee" was born in Germany but he realized at the end of his life that he had no love for Europe and that there was rampant antiAmericanism. None of this was the work of President Bush. Much of the venom he encountered was in the 1990s.
The presidency isn't a popularity contest.
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posted on
05/06/2004 12:10:25 AM PDT
by
weegee
To: weegee; Travis McGee
The NYT has the talking points,too.
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posted on
05/06/2004 12:13:44 AM PDT
by
MEG33
(John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
To: weegee
Right, we should start punishing the innocent, that'll show everyone how great we are.
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posted on
05/06/2004 12:14:00 AM PDT
by
McGavin999
(If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
To: Timesink; *CCRM; martin_fierro; reformed_democrat; Loyalist; =Intervention=; PianoMan; GOPJ; ...
I also know the sort of abuse that went on in Abu Ghraib prison goes on in prisons all over the Arab world every day, as it did under Saddam without the Arab League or Al-Jazeera ever saying a word about it. Ahhhheem! CNN KNEW about torture and murder under Saddam's regime but kept quiet so as to maintain their Baghdad bureau.
The "revived" public Media Schadenfreude and and Media Shenanigans lists PING
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posted on
05/06/2004 12:14:24 AM PDT
by
weegee
(NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
To: weegee
It's no wonder that so many Americans are obsessed with the finale of the sitcom Friends right now. They're the only friends we have, and even they're leaving. If he'll say this, he'll say anything.
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posted on
05/06/2004 12:18:57 AM PDT
by
dr_lew
To: weegee
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posted on
05/06/2004 12:20:15 AM PDT
by
FairOpinion
(If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
To: weegee
This is the same old same old.
1. Bush made mistakes.
2. Only the U.N. can confer legitimacy.
3. If we abase ourselves before the world other nations will step up and help out in a big way.
Nothing done by Bush or any other human being is perfect. That said, it is telling that those who insist Bush should admit his mistakes never say what those mistakes are.
Doing the right thing is legitimate. It doesn't matter whether this or that other country goes along.
Those who want us to succeed are already helping.
It's that simple.
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posted on
05/06/2004 12:20:35 AM PDT
by
rogue yam
To: weegee
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posted on
05/06/2004 12:21:03 AM PDT
by
backhoe
(The balance of Common Sense is tipping toward Non-sense...)
To: weegee
"We have to restore some sense of partnership with the world..."Tom's UN warm and fussy utopia dreamland.
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posted on
05/06/2004 12:23:27 AM PDT
by
endthematrix
(To enter my lane you must use your turn signal!)
To: weegee
Bush needs to invite to Camp David the five permanent members of the U.N. Security Council, the heads of both NATO and the United Nations, and the leaders of Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and Syria. There, he needs to eat crow, apologize for his mistakes and make clear that he is turning a new page.
Oh, please. Where do these people get this stuff?
expand our force in Iraq, and have it work under a new U.N. mandate, so it will have the legitimacy it needs
UN mandate and legitimacy in the same sentence. Yeah. Right.
How large is our military? A quarter million or so? Is it really right to blame Rumsfeld for the actions of 6 to 20 or so, to the point of being fired?
Is that part of the "code" in the military? This is not a sarcastic question. Would one of you military guys or girls explain?
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posted on
05/06/2004 12:26:22 AM PDT
by
texasflower
(in the event of the rapture.......the Bush White House will be unmanned)
To: weegee
Thanks for posting something worthwhile.
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posted on
05/06/2004 12:26:36 AM PDT
by
Finalapproach29er
(" Permitting homosexuality didn't work out very well for the Roman Empire")
To: dr_lew
New keyboard please.
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posted on
05/06/2004 12:27:38 AM PDT
by
texasflower
(in the event of the rapture.......the Bush White House will be unmanned)
To: weegee
Bush needs to invite to Camp David the five permanent members of the U.N. Security Council, the heads of both NATO and the United Nations, and the leaders of Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and Syria. There, he needs to eat crow, apologize for his mistakes and make clear that he is turning a new page. Second, he needs to explain that we are losing in Iraq, and if we continue to lose the U.S. public will eventually demand that we quit Iraq, and it will then become Afghanistan-on-steroids, which will threaten everyone. Third, he needs to say he will be guided by the United Nations in forming the new caretaker government in Baghdad. And fourth, he needs to explain that he is ready to listen to everyone's ideas about how to expand our force in Iraq, and have it work under a new U.N. mandate,ROTFLMBO!!!!
To: FairOpinion
The left is just using this to attack Bush and his administration. Wasn't it mentioned in the Memo's from the Sen Intel Committee they would use things like this to attack the President and his Administration?
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posted on
05/06/2004 12:30:37 AM PDT
by
Mo1
(Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
To: texasflower
Is that part of the "code" in the military? Nope. There was a GENERAL officer that was in charge. The buck stops with her. If her culpability had been swept under the rug then yes Rumsfeld would be negligent. That is not the case in this incident.
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posted on
05/06/2004 12:30:37 AM PDT
by
Texasforever
(The French love John Kerry. He is their new Jerry Lewis)
To: Lancey Howard
OH PLease,.....Bush needs to invite to Camp David the five permanent members of the U.N. Security Council...
Liberal Media GO DRINK KOOLADE
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posted on
05/06/2004 12:32:43 AM PDT
by
agincourt1415
(Liberal Press about to over play this story HUGE)
To: weegee
The Houston Chronicle is no more than a Extreme Left Liberal Democratic rag. With no competition, they can get away with it. They spew their liberal agenda on the front page with sensational headlines and blatantly biased opinion laced "news".
So why to I subscribe? Local sports, non political local news, and the crossword puzzle. I think I am getting ripped off.
To: weegee
The Thoughtomator NY Times Rule of Thumb (tm) applies here!
(check profile)
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posted on
05/06/2004 12:37:22 AM PDT
by
thoughtomator
(yesterday Kabul, today Baghdad, tomorrow Damascus)
To: weegee
the only legitimate rationale for this war was try to help Iraqis create a progressive context in the heart of the Arab-Muslim world where that war of ideas could be fought out.
NO, NO, NO and again No. The legitimate justification for this war is and was the maintaince of American security.
Now Friedman wants to scapegoat Rumsfeld for the defalcations of a few so down the chain of command he couldn t see them with an atomic telescope. A review of this overrated pundit will show that he was an ardent enthusiast for this war. We now know it is because he fell victim to the terminal malady prevalent among liberals to order the world, domestic or foreign, to fit their model. Mogadishu is a perfect example of the danger of this virus when liberals have power.
God save us from this Wilsonian compulsion to do good, save the world, and build Jeffersonian democracy at the risk of American security. Friedman would have plumped for the League of Nations had he enjoyed the sponsorship of the Times in 1919. There is no salvation in the UN. No salvation in good intentions. No salvation in MEA CULPAS.
We are at war. We are not in a public relations contest. We are not in a struggle to make it confortable for Mr. Friedman at UN coctail parties.
We are trying to save our own democracy and we have not the resources to divert to schemes to build a brave new world that fits the left s model.
To: BaylorDad
Apart from the crossword, you can get the rest of those things (sports and local news) from the local networks. I watch Fox 26. They have an hour long broadcast (although it isn't 60 minutes or even 45 minutes of real news). They do some of the same fires/shootings/car crash reports that the other local networks do but on whole I find them to do a better
news report. I've seen WB39's news too (on rebroadcast) and it isn't that bad either.
Fox26 does have good breaking sports tips regarding trades and of course they report the scores.
I can't get the new local 24 hour news channel here in Houston but they also put articles from their reports on their website.
Dan Patrick is also putting together some sort of local flyer/newssheet which should be coming out before long. Maybe you should contact him about putting a crossword puzzle in it!
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posted on
05/06/2004 12:42:37 AM PDT
by
weegee
(NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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