Posted on 05/05/2004 11:55:48 PM PDT by weegee
By the standards of the J. Edgar Hoover FBI, Wayne Newton is "cool".
I don't gamble but I've heard about three-time losers.......describes Kerry well. LOL.
Theoharis and Cox, 149: At a stroke the tough, clean-cut, close-cropped Cagney became the prototype of the government policeman, so much so that Hoover began issuing new regulations requiring his agents to lose weight, cut their hair, improve their dress, and in general sharpen their image.
Is that count including Teresa?--LOL!
... and if you note CALCAV/CALC's association with Riverside Church and crossreference that with ...
Your research is obviously MUCH more structured than mine. I was honestly just perusing through and I found it interesting. I scribbled down some notes as I went. But I was getting the impression of many of the connections. Overall, I was wondering if this wasn't one massive organization... with subgroups (aka cells, "focos", etc.). SDS definitely seemed to be in an upper tier... VVAW a lower tier. (CPUSA was probably at the top! lol) I'd have to check, but I think some of the NY addresses linked up with some of today's organizations (e.g. Ramsey Clark groups)... but I'm not sure I wrote it down.
...I suspect the journalist who wrote this article didn't go through that process ...
I think the author who wrote the article had only limited time to even glance at what he received (9000 pages released yesterday). Making sense of the whole thing... or attempting to connect the dots in a short lenghth of time (even with a team working over night) couldn't have gleaned much. And... if there is more meat there, I have no confidence that they will actually write about it... our sad misdirected media (still).
I agree about J Edgars files... there was nothing of the nature of a specific operation... those all must have had separate files, i.e. VVAW, SDS, etc. or by the individuals name if they rose to that level of interest.
...Regarding the 1/30/69..... so apparently the report is available somewhere.
Interesting... I might have to see what I can find.
I'm very interested in the information you mention on Kerry's cousin's activity in France. Where may I read more about that?
Some of this information may have been modified since I last read it all....but... someone was doing an incredible job documenting the family history and family tree (everything sourced, etc.) on wikipedia.com up to current campaign activities (all cross linked, etc). Through all of my reading, I didn't see anything that was contrary to established publications. (going back to about 1985 only). Wikipedia seems to be a joint voluntary project where users/researchers can add information. I glanced there the other day, and it looked like a Kerry-ite was adding (or changing) data (Only on the John Forbes Kerry page), unsupported... so, caution is warranted. If you follow the family tree, you will find that the Forbes family (his grandfather) had substantial interests in China/SE Asia and made their money in the Opium trade. More on this in my next post, since you mentioned the Paris talks and Madam Binh.
His cousin is Brice Lalonde of France which has been acknowledged in various publications (including some articles on FR). He is currently a Mayor... but previously ran as the Socialist candidate for President of France (a decade or two ago). He was founder of the Green Party and a served as the Minister of the Environment. Use this as a start... much of it is verifiable from recent articles... but some I wasn't able to confirm. (I wouldn't rely on it as primary source material). I have read elsewhere that he was one of the founders of the "predecessor to Greenpeace" which started as a student protest group and that Kerry visited him at the time and participated in activities. I believe this was before his Vietnam 'service'... but I'm not sure. The only group that I found that might fit the definition is the "Don't Make A Wave Committee", but glancing at wikipedia just now, they say it is the Union Nationale des Etudiants de France (UNEF). I never found any good source material, although I didn't look that hard. (There is probably quite a bit in French publications in the 60's/70's, and more current for that matter.) I went through FR to see if the articles that mentioned his french affiliations had a Keyword... I think I marked most (if not all) "Monseiur Kerry" and/or "John French Kerry". Many of these were published about the time Kerry was getting heat for talking to "Foreign Leaders". The comments from French relatives are quite amusing... basically saying that they'll be quiet for a time (but they're driving around France with Kerry bumper stickers!). One relative referred to him as a socialist. At least they're honest about it! LOL. More to follow! :-)
I agree there are indicators of high-level coordination between various elements in the antiwar movement. CPUSA and its long-term fellow travellers on the American left were definitely factors; the Chinese also had an influence through groups such as the Progressive Labor Party (which infiltrated SDS and helped create the Weathermen, who in turn helped forge the Vencermos Brigade's ties to Cuba); and Cuban influence was widely disseminated across the board. With respect to Ramsey Clark two groups to be aware of in the background of his organization are the Socialist Workers Party (discussed extensively in FBI files and linked to the VVAW-associated antiwar group New Mobe) and its spinoff the Workers World Party. You're right about some of the groups sharing addresses--for instance, Nicosia's Home to War, 49 mentions that VVAW-related groups LINK, New Mobe, and the Moratorium Committee all operated out of the same Washington headquarters at 1029 Vermont Avenue NW in 1969.
Thanks much for the info on Kerry's cousin! I knew a little about that but much of what you have there is new to me, esp. the information about Lalonde's left-wing political ties, and I definitely find that very interesting.
I appreciate your caution on the need to fact-check what certain sites say about Kerry's family background. The information about the Forbes family having long-term interests in the Far East including opium is accurate but IMO before making too much of that I'd want to substantiate any links between the family's activity in that area and and Kerry specifically (which I've also been working on, LOL!). But even without hard evidence of that, I'd say the Lalonde tie warrants an inquiry into whether Kerry's French connection had any relevance to his relationship with the French element of the antiwar movement. On a possibly related note, I'll mention that when Kerry's father was a diplomat in Europe, he introduced Kerry to prominent French politicians such as Jean Monnet, who was linked to a faction in the US State Department that opposed John Foster Dulles on Soviet policy and advocated nuclear disarmament--I'm working on an article which will get more into this.
I can add one to that list: The VVAW and the Citizens Commission of Inquiry (CCI) were at the end of 1970 operating from the same NY City address -- 156 Fifth Avenue...
People’s Coalition for Peace and Justice (PCPJ) is self-described as a broad coalition of local and national organizations including the Communist Party, USA, committed to conducting demonstrations aimed at ending the war in Indochina, and poverty, racism and injustice at home. Its National Office is located at 156 Fifth Avenue, New York City (NYC).
Thanks; yes, I've seen those and have been following up on some leads there :)
Dewey Canyon was April 71, right? Well, I'll be. That means the Communists were backing VVAW before Kerry left, not after. I'm Shocked! /s
The dates for Dewey Canyon III were chosen purposefully. The civilian peace movement was planning two weeks of major demonstrations beginning on Saturday April 24. The first action, a massive rally would take place that Saturday under the auspices of the National Peace Action Coalition, a Trotskist descendant of the Moratorium committee. NPAC was planning completely legal, nonthreatening actions, but close on their heels would come the People's Coalition for Peace and Justice (PCPJ) and the so-called May Day Tribe, both of which had a far more radical agenda.
So says Nicosia. For my part, I don't buy that the VVAW and PCPJ elements in the rally divided so neatly into separate camps. As my citation of Powell mentioned, Hanoi's goal was to have Sidney Lens unite the Communist and Trotskyite elements of the antiwar movement through the rally. Also, the Communists had used a similar one-two combination in previous instances: Martin Luther King, etc. would organize "peaceful" movements, but these would gradually develop in a violent direction under the agitation of Malcom X, etc.; likewise SDS started off "peaceful" but was then infiltrated by violent groups like the Yippies, PLP, etc. to produce groups like the Weathermen. Most of the participants in such movements may not have realized that this was the game plan, but I have no doubt the ultimate organizers back in Moscow and Beijing and Havana were fully aware of the seeds they were sowing.
Excellent. Can you point me to a source for that paragraph, and a timeframe?
IT: I'll have to go back and find the exact file and page number (I am almost positive it was the FBI foia files on CALC).... I'll try to do that by tomorrow and get back to you.
Fedora: I'm still absorbing many of the other things and doing some more reading... If (when) I have more thoughts, I'll get back to you.
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