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To: Noumenon
The US has the military capability to annihilate any "clasical" enemy. Will our nuke subs and missiles make any difference in this new kind of war? If we wiped Mecca and Medina and all capital cities of the Islamic world off the map would that win the war?
13 posted on 05/05/2004 4:10:37 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Fitzcarraldo
If we wiped Mecca and Medina and all capital cities of the Islamic world off the map would that win the war?

They have to pray towards the Ka'aba five times a day. Kind of hard to do that when the Ka'aba's been turned into a thousand-mile plume of radioactive soot... (c8

16 posted on 05/05/2004 4:13:24 PM PDT by Poohbah (Darkdrake Lives!)
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To: Fitzcarraldo
To answer you last question: it would be a start.

But the worst that lies ahead is conflict within our own borders. There are no guarantees, either. Rome lasted as a republic for what - 600 years? Yet some still spoke of the 'Roman Empire' as late as as 800 AD. It existed as a fiction. Rome fell when Romans stopped being Romans, when they lost the sense of the ideas, traditions and culture that held their civilization together. As will America.

There is nothing that says that another, crueler, dark age can't fall upon the world once again.

24 posted on 05/05/2004 4:18:53 PM PDT by Noumenon (There's nothing wrong with the Left that can't be cured with a rope, a knife or a .45)
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To: Fitzcarraldo
If we wiped Mecca and Medina and all capital cities of the Islamic world off the map would that win the war?

If the islamic holy sites are destroyed, yes, islam will die. It can do nothing else - it is totally predicated on being superior and able to show superiority by overshadowing other religions.

Actually, Mecca and a couple more like the al Aqsa mosque might be enough.

32 posted on 05/05/2004 4:26:42 PM PDT by DonaldDuke
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To: Fitzcarraldo
"If we wiped Mecca and Medina and all capital cities of the Islamic world off the map would that win the war?"

Nope. The WMD of civilization warfare [Worldwide Migrating Demographics] is Children. Time, Democracy and Economics are their vehicle. "If you hire them, they will come". The West cooperates with the suicide pill and abortion as the second line of defense against children.

88 posted on 05/05/2004 5:16:35 PM PDT by ex-snook (Neocon Chickenhawk for War like Liberal Cuckoo for Welfare. Both freeload.)
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To: Fitzcarraldo
As soon as Mecca went away and it was shown that Allah did not protect it, the Islamic hordes would dry up and blow away.
91 posted on 05/05/2004 5:22:02 PM PDT by montomike (Gay means happy and carefree not an abomination)
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To: Fitzcarraldo
-To Your Question,--yes.

A Generation of "Relief" from "Islam" is JUST "What we Need" to acquire a bit of "Perspective!"

Absent that "Perspective," we MUST ASSUME that "Islam" Has & Will attempt to DESTROY WESTERN CULTURE!!

"Islam" CERTAINLY HAS NOT made ANY Attempt to "Preserve &/or Protect" Western Culture.

Sadly, the "Purveyors of Islam" have REPEATEDLY STATED, "ISLAM UBER ALLES!!"

MOST Rational People have Concluded that "Radical Islam" is a form of Sociopathy similar to "Naziism."

After WWII, MOST Americans will NEVER ACCEPT ANY Political Philosophy that--even Vaguely--resembles ANY FORM of nationalized Socialism.

THAT's WHY "Hillary's Nationalized Healthcare" "BOMBED SO BADLY!!"

There are NON-ANTI-Socialistic Plans for "HealthCare" Becoming Available (DESPITE opposition by Mr Kerry et. al.) involving "Medical Savings Accounts."

"Health Savings Accounts,(Medical Savings Accounts) REMOVE ANY "Control" of a Patients Medical Care from the Insurance Companies!

90% of "subscribers" to Insurance Plans--once they Understand how "MSA's/HSA's" work-- WANT this form of Health Insurance.

"The Motto;" Americans are NOT STUPID!!

Doc

94 posted on 05/05/2004 5:24:59 PM PDT by Doc On The Bay
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To: Fitzcarraldo
In a word NO! The great problem is the lack of belief in the fact that Western Civilization is something worth keeping.It is a form of dry rot. We the people as a whole need to realize that the ideas of rule of law ,individual rights, accountability of govt officials to the citizenry. These things are not the norm through out human history but the glorious exception & they are worth keeping.
140 posted on 05/05/2004 7:04:17 PM PDT by Nebr FAL owner (.308 REACH OUT & THUMP SOMEONE .50BMG REACH OUT & CRUSH SOMEONE!)
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To: Fitzcarraldo
If we wiped Mecca and Medina and all capital cities of the Islamic world off the map would that win the war?

YES!

I would have done it after 9-11. Bush is merciful.

198 posted on 05/06/2004 12:34:59 AM PDT by Major_Risktaker (Oderint dum metuant)
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