Former CIA Official: U.S. May Fall Like USSR

News Max ^ | May. 5, 2004 | Phil Brennan

[yonif]

Herb Meyer is calling for a holy war to save western civilization. But the former Reagan CIA official has a problem: Most people don’t know what it is he wants to save.

"We’ve forgotten what Western civilization is," Meyer told NewsMax.com. "We no longer teach it in the schools. If you come to the schools where I live and ask a group of high school students ‘what is Western Civilization?’ They’ll tell you it’s slavery, the oppression of women and we don’t recycle.”

But Western Civilization is not made up of our faults; all civilizations have those. Meyer contends, “It’s the rule of law, the idea of individual and economic rights, scientific inquiry - this is important stuff and our failure to teach our children what Western Civilization is may be the worst mistake we’ve ever made."

Meyer was not one just to ride into the sunset after his government service with Ronald Reagan. During the 1980s he served as Special Assistant to the Director of Central Intelligence, William J. Casey. Meyer played a key role in helping Ronald Reagan and Bill Casey win the cold war. Meyer was also one of the first analysts to predict the breakup of the Soveit empire.

Now, this former CIA analyst says it’s the U.S. and the West that may just crackup.

In fact, he has just produced a new video, The Siege of Western Civilization," that makes his point, and explains to Americans what we need to save.

Meyer also had a distinguished career in journalism. He's a former associate editor of Fortune, author of several books and dozens of published essays about politics and economics.

Meyer has put together the case – sometimes in shocking detail - the continuing assault on the very underpinnings of the civilization which has produced the concepts of religious and individual freedom, economic liberty, and the rule of law which have guided mankind for centuries.

This foundation of civilization led to a flowering of art and literature, monumental scientific discoveries and a living standard unmatched in all history.

But now Meyer is worried Americans today are willing to lose it all because they have no idea of how it all came about.

He argues that there has been an assault against Western civilization.

This attack he sees as three pronged:

A new civil war fought against the existence of any moral code governing conduct

A war against the kind of population growth required to sustain a nation’s economy and the welfare of its elderly people

An attack by a brand of Islam which seeks nothing less than to subjugate the Western world. This video is available on dvd or cassette, and is one every high school student in America and their parents should see.

Meyer tackles all three threats and explains what has to be done if Western Civilization and its incredible benefits are not to be vanquished.

"People want to be talked to seriously about the issues that confront us," Meyer explained. "They want to be talked to about the war, about our culture and about our economy. What they need more than anything else, is a way to pull it together, to connect the dots so that they have a context for following the news and for understanding what’s happening out there, and that’s what we tried to do in the video: To give them that context, to connect the dots, for them."

Population Suicide

You don’t hear much about it, but the Western world and Japan are in the process of committing population suicide – and America is not far behind.

Current birthrates in England, France, Germany, Italy, Spain and in Japan are far below what its required for a society to reproduce itself and sustain a healthy economy.

Russia is a population basket case. To reproduce itself, the birthrate must be 2.1 children per family. In Europe it’s almost half that, and in the U.S. it’s now 2.0 and headed down. In a mere 20 years, the population of some European nations and Japan will have dropped by an astonishing 30 percent.

"We seem to have forgotten what every primitive society understands: you need children," Meyer told NewsMax.com.

"They are a blessing obviously, but from a practical point of view they are consumers which an economy needs and then they grow up and become taxpayers. If you don’t have a big enough tax base you simply cannot generate the wealth to take care of the older people.

"And that’s what’s happening in Western Civilization today. We simply don’t have enough working age people to support the retired people.

"It’s the worst in Europe and Japan and we are obviously on the same trajectory. We can see what’s happening in Europe and Japan, so we have some time to deal with it."

Meyer says a second civil war is being waged against the culture of Western Civilization by hordes of neo-barbarians.

No Rules

"Back in the 1960s we just decided to throw away the rule book. We said ‘You don’t need rules anymore; everybody do whatever you want. If it feels good, do it.' That was a terrible mistake and we’re paying a price for it now. We expanded rights but no one wants to take responsibilities. You have to match the two. If you’re going to have more rights, you have to have more responsibility, but we want the rights without the responsibility."

And there is a worldwide war of terrorism against Western Civilization being waged by the fanatical wing of Islam.

Radical Islam Wants Us Gone

While noting that there are millions of good and decent Muslims in the world Meyer warns that "There is within Islam a radical streak and when the radicals are in charge, Islam attacks Western Civilization.

"It did that in the 7th century, it did again in the 15th and 16th centuries, and it’s doing it now in the 21st century. What we call the War on Terror, is in fact radical Islam’s third attack on Western Civilization. Terrorism is the tactic they are using."

Meyer insists, "We have to go back and understand just what it is we are fighting for. And when you understand Western Civilization then you have a very clear sense of who the enemy is, what they are attacking and why it’s worth defending."

[backtothestreets]

Hi BossLady! Thanks for sending this.

I'm no fan of the CIA. I'm reading this as one individuals opinion. He's got some valid points.

The birthrate among natural born American citizens is in decline. It has been in decline for many decades. The only reason our birthrate does not show a deeper decline is due to immigrants now populating our country. Many people blame abortion. The greater truth points to the birth control pill, two consecutive generations that have collectively postponed having children until they can afford them. Too often that becomes never.

Another reason for the decline is the change in demographics of our country over the last century. When we were a rural farming population, large families meant more hands to work the land and greater economic return for their efforts. My own grandmother was one of 22 children by the same mother. Each child had an individual bedroom! Current economic conditions are just the opposite. More children brings poverty to families in this modern world.

I keep having this strong gut feeling the reason 78% of Congress (Senators and Representatives) are in favor of leniency toward illegal immigrants is in play here. The views of Congress are completely opposite of the citizens they serve. Eighty percent of citizenship wants more stringent immigration policies. Is Congress looking to immigrants to one day shoulder Social Security and be the defenders our nation?

Where the author contends Western Civilization is under attack, that is true, but not because our enemy has grown strong. We have grown weak. While he faults the sixties, the seeds were sown immediately following WWII.

As far as radical Islam wanting us gone, it also want moderate Islam gone. By way of moderate Islam will not fighting radical Islam, they have given approval for this attack on Western Civilization. By the same token, we want radical Islam gone. We will need to fight the entire body of Islam to accomplish that end.

Our leaders, for need to be politically correct, are still looking for the words to convey this message. If WWII had started in our times rather then when it did, we wouldn't be fighting the Japs and Nazis. We would be fighting "the German terrorist and the Japanese insurgents. If our leaders could muster the courage they would tell us we are fighting Islam.

For a former CIA official, he should be telling our leadership what most common people already know. There is a world war right now. The USA, United Kingdom, India, Russia, Spain, Thailand, the Philippines, France, Italy, Turkey, Syria, Israel, Iraq, Greece, Saudi Arabia, Morocco, Egypt and numerous other countries have been hit. Radical Islam is to blame.

Unfortunately, we live in an "enlightened" time where laying responsibility on the perpetrators of any crime is seen as laying the seeds of hate. The war is on, and it's much bigger then even our president admits. What devastating world event will have to occur before our "enlightened" western leadership unites to fight an already united enemy?

Lastly, we've become a nation that places much higher value on wealth then liberty itself. Generally speaking, if it makes money, people accept it as good, whatever "it" may be. As a nation we've lost our good values. Our cities have people, but not communities. Owning a new car or house is of greater importance then having children. We allow the future generations to be leveraged into certain economic slavery. Planning for the future has been pushed aside by the "here and now", "at any cost" consumer.

[R. Scott]

Nations fall - not as in disappear, but fall from the number one spot.
From the Chin (China) through Babylon (Iraq), Rome (Italy), the Holy Roman Empire (Germany), Great Briton (England) many have had their place in the sun. None have survived with any of their power or glory except in the history books.

[R. Scott]

i think this slow whittling away of our rights doesn't alarm people enough.

Too true - and if we lose many more of our freedoms we will no longer be the nation we once were. We are at the point where we are hanging on primarily through military power. That is not a good sign.

[R. Scott]

And my thoughts are, with our accelerated pace, we've already achieved the decadence and decay that took the Romans the better half of a millennium to achieve.

There are close comparisons.
Rome had changed from a Republic to a dictatorship.
Rome was overextended militarily.
Rome experienced a crisis of religion; the new (Christianity) was displacing the old (Paganism).
We are also overextended militarily and are experiencing a crisis of religion, and have changed from a Republic to a Democracy to a Executiveship (?) with our Congress ceding power to the executive.

[BossLady]

Great synopsis! I love what you said here:

"we've become a nation that places much higher value on wealth then liberty itself"

[backtothestreets]

Thanks. That statement "we've become a nation that places much higher value on wealth then liberty itself", was inspired by the most prominent signer of our Declaration of Independence, John Hancock.

At the time, John Hancock was among the wealthiest of British subjects in the colonies. Remaining loyal to the British crown assured his continued wealth and prosperity, but not liberty.

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[RightWhale]

None have survived with any of their power or glory

That is what is taught in public school. However, we might find, upon reflection, that Rome did not fall at all, but moved. They, the power elite, are still in operation. For a while they were in Constantinople, and later they were in London. Where are they now? Look around.

[R. Scott]

The illuminati?

[RightWhale]

I don't know. I don't think I am a member of that fraternity, but there seems to have been some continuity in thought and government in spite of the rise and fall of empire. Some days I feel like I wake up and look around and say, Rome fell? What is this, then? It is still here, the Roman Empire is still here, strong as ever, French Revolution or not.

[R. Scott]

Baring a complete apocalyptic devastation, there will be some form of continuity.
People who rose to the top in the Roman Empire rose to the top of the Barbarian States. Ideologies live long lives, governments and empires don’t.