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To: bondserv
4. We have unreliable Old Testaments and New Testaments. (therefore we have no reasoning for adhering to the standards in the Bible, other than "it sounds good to me")

So, let's see now. Genesis 1 says rthat on the 6th Day God created the various beasts, and then created man and woman in his own image. And then in Genesis 2:2-3, it was the seventh day, and he rested.

And then it goes on to say that God made man from the dust in the ground (after the seventh day; or is this a flashback?).And then he created all the beasts and fowls and brought them to Adam to name. Except he'd already created the fowls back on Day 5, from the waters. Oops!

In fact, Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 appear to be two partially conflicting creation stories. And that's only one of hundreds of clear inconsistencies in the Bible.

71 posted on 05/05/2004 3:21:15 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: Right Wing Professor
The first story is about the creation of earth, the second is the creation of the Garden of Eden.
74 posted on 05/05/2004 3:30:18 PM PDT by Cowgirl
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To: Right Wing Professor
In fact, Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 appear to be two partially conflicting creation stories. And that's only one of hundreds of clear inconsistencies in the Bible.

Genesis 2 is a recap of Genesis 1 with added detail to day six. It further describes God's creation of Eden, the presentation of the animals to Adam for naming (more convincingly showing Adam that He is God by creating another of each kind of animal before Adam's eyes) and the subsequent creation of Eve. This is a fleshing out of events in day six. That is why Jesus was able to tie together Gen 1 and Gen 2 when describing Adam and Eve being created in the beginning.

Matt 19:4-6
4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

Jesus quotes from Genesis 1:27 "male and female created he them." and Genesis 2:24 24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

In fact Jesus adds the qualifier "at the beginning" in Matthew 19:4 that is not in the Genesis text, which would tell me He believed Adam and Eve were created at the beginning. In Genesis 2 Adam and Eve were named and Jesus doesn't hesitate to put together day 6 in Gen 1 and the added detail of day 6 in Gen 2.

If you want to say that Jesus' quoting the text describing Adam and Eve being at the beginning not once but twice in Matt 19:4 and 19:8 would lead me to believe He was just quoting from a fanciful story, I refuse. Who needs Jesus if the first man didn't fall, and sin just somehow crept up on us. We might as well toss out all of Paul's writings about the original sin of the first Adam.

It is more logical to take this as an affirmation of the text in Gen 1 and Gen 2 being something Jesus believes to be true. Paul wrote about Adam as if God affirmed Adams reality to Paul.

75 posted on 05/05/2004 3:33:47 PM PDT by bondserv (Alignment is critical!)
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To: Right Wing Professor
In fact, Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 appear to be two partially conflicting creation stories.

WHAT!???

In the face of this convincing 'evidence', those stupid old guys kept writing their Book???

Dummies.........

177 posted on 05/06/2004 5:38:36 AM PDT by Elsie (Truth is violated by falsehood, but it is outraged by silence.)
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