To take the comments first: they seem to be from threads discussing the latest hysteria over the nude, semi-nude or just silly pictures coming out of Iraq. That is, purportedly coming out of Iraq. As of now, what is real and not real has not been determined - some pics floated around comes from a porn studio in Budapest, for example. And even if some of this is real, being told to stand in a silly manner while naked and feeling humiliated is not torture, even if you're an islamic, a terrorist, or a terrorist sympathizer. Think you can wrap your mind around this?
Vulgar display: that is your profile page packed with all this stuff - screaming "woe is us - we are Bad Americans - we have lost the war, immoral swine that we are". Yes, you are one. Your screeds are exactly what comes out of MoveOn and ANSWER. I'd say that's pretty vulgar. And that's being polite.
Don't read the news much do you chief?
Here's a few quotes from stories on all the news sites since you missed them.
the deaths of two Iraqi prisoners already have been ruled homicides and have on going investigations into another 12 deaths, the Army said Tuesday. In one case, a soldier was court-martialed, reduced in rank and discharged from the Army. In the other case, a CIA contract interrogator's conduct has been referred to the Justice Department for criminal prosecution, the Army said.
Then there's this:
The following are some of the key excerpts from the report prepared by Maj. Gen. Antonio M. Taguba on alleged abuse of prisoners by members of the 800th Military Police Brigade at the Abu Ghraib Prison in Baghdad. The report was ordered by Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, commander of Joint Task Force-7, the senior U.S. military official in Iraq, following persistent allegations of human rights abuses at the prison.
-numerous incidents of sadistic, blatant, and wanton criminal abuses were inflicted on several detainees. This systemic and illegal abuse of detainees was intentionally perpetrated by several members of the military police guard force
-Breaking chemical lights and pouring the phosphoric liquid on detainees
- Forcing detainees to remove their clothing and keeping them naked for several days at a time
-Pouring cold water on naked detainees
-Beating detainees with a broom handle and a chair
-Allowing a military police guard to stitch the wound of a detainee who was injured after being slammed against the wall in his cell
- Sodomizing a detainee with a chemical light and perhaps a broom stick
-Punching, slapping, and kicking detainees; jumping on their naked feet
-Videotaping and photographing naked male and female detainees
-Forcibly arranging detainees in various sexually explicit positions for photographing
-Forcing naked male detainees to wear women’s underwear
-Forcing groups of male detainees to masturbate themselves while being photographed and videotaped
-Arranging naked male detainees in a pile and then jumping on them
-Positioning a naked detainee on a MRE Box, with a sandbag on his head, and attaching wires to his fingers, toes, and penis to simulate electric torture
-Placing a dog chain or strap around a naked detainee’s neck and having a female Soldier pose for a picture
-A male MP guard having sex with a female detainee
-Using military working dogs (without muzzles) to intimidate and frighten detainees, and in at least one case biting and severely injuring a detainee
These findings are amply supported by written confessions provided by several of the suspects, written statements provided by detainees, and witness statements.
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Do you find all these FACTS as laid out by the army itself compatible with your values? If so that's OK there are plenty of others around here who think this business is just the greatest. Funny thing though but the president himself doesn't seem too keen on it. But hey, maybe these folks are more conservative than he is. Personally my conservative values are appalled by this but then perhaps I'm just old fashioned.