Don't read the news much do you chief?
Here's a few quotes from stories on all the news sites since you missed them.
the deaths of two Iraqi prisoners already have been ruled homicides and have on going investigations into another 12 deaths, the Army said Tuesday. In one case, a soldier was court-martialed, reduced in rank and discharged from the Army. In the other case, a CIA contract interrogator's conduct has been referred to the Justice Department for criminal prosecution, the Army said.
Then there's this:
The following are some of the key excerpts from the report prepared by Maj. Gen. Antonio M. Taguba on alleged abuse of prisoners by members of the 800th Military Police Brigade at the Abu Ghraib Prison in Baghdad. The report was ordered by Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, commander of Joint Task Force-7, the senior U.S. military official in Iraq, following persistent allegations of human rights abuses at the prison.
-numerous incidents of sadistic, blatant, and wanton criminal abuses were inflicted on several detainees. This systemic and illegal abuse of detainees was intentionally perpetrated by several members of the military police guard force
-Breaking chemical lights and pouring the phosphoric liquid on detainees
- Forcing detainees to remove their clothing and keeping them naked for several days at a time
-Pouring cold water on naked detainees
-Beating detainees with a broom handle and a chair
-Allowing a military police guard to stitch the wound of a detainee who was injured after being slammed against the wall in his cell
- Sodomizing a detainee with a chemical light and perhaps a broom stick
-Punching, slapping, and kicking detainees; jumping on their naked feet
-Videotaping and photographing naked male and female detainees
-Forcibly arranging detainees in various sexually explicit positions for photographing
-Forcing naked male detainees to wear women’s underwear
-Forcing groups of male detainees to masturbate themselves while being photographed and videotaped
-Arranging naked male detainees in a pile and then jumping on them
-Positioning a naked detainee on a MRE Box, with a sandbag on his head, and attaching wires to his fingers, toes, and penis to simulate electric torture
-Placing a dog chain or strap around a naked detainee’s neck and having a female Soldier pose for a picture
-A male MP guard having sex with a female detainee
-Using military working dogs (without muzzles) to intimidate and frighten detainees, and in at least one case biting and severely injuring a detainee
These findings are amply supported by written confessions provided by several of the suspects, written statements provided by detainees, and witness statements.
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Do you find all these FACTS as laid out by the army itself compatible with your values? If so that's OK there are plenty of others around here who think this business is just the greatest. Funny thing though but the president himself doesn't seem too keen on it. But hey, maybe these folks are more conservative than he is. Personally my conservative values are appalled by this but then perhaps I'm just old fashioned.
You, on the other hand, prefer the mob. Another MoveOn trait.
Breaking chemical lights and pouring the phosphoric liquid on detainees
Probably annoying as h*ll. Is it harmful? How harmful? Like, do your skin fall off, is it poisonous to the point of killing you or making you sick?
Forcing detainees to remove their clothing and keeping them naked for several days at a time
Oh yes, I imagine that this would be pretty harmful given Iraqi temperatures.
Pouring cold water on naked detainees
Getting doused with cold water in a desert climate must be pure torture. Terrible.
Beating detainees with a broom handle and a chair
Too bad. How much of a beating did the victim take? Bruised? Broken bones?
Allowing a military police guard to stitch the wound of a detainee who was injured after being slammed against the wall in his cell
Getting medical attention is torture? Just wondering: does the guard (I assume that you know who it was) have some paramedic training? Was it a good stitch-up-job?
Sodomizing a detainee with a chemical light and perhaps a broom stick
Sodomizing detainees isn't a good thing. There might have to be some payback for this one, if true. But I notice that you're saying "perhaps with a broom stick". Do you have all the details on this?
Punching, slapping, and kicking detainees; jumping on their naked feet
My heart bleeds profusely. Jumping on people's feet is just beyond the pale. Do you know if anyone suffered physical damage from this, and where can I find a verification of this incident?
Videotaping and photographing naked male and female detainees
Hmmm... there does seem to have been some pics of naked people floating around. Can you point out which ones are non-faked, and who took them?
Forcibly arranging detainees in various sexually explicit positions for photographing
You mean, photographing people in silly and humiliating positions, thereby offending muslim religion and libertarian sensibilities?
Forcing naked male detainees to wear women’s underwear
I hate to break this to you, but detainees wearing women's underwear are hardly "naked". Who knows, it might even be a preference for certain editors close to your editor :).
Forcing groups of male detainees to masturbate themselves while being photographed and videotaped
More humiliating stuff. I suppose this should be cracked down on, if true. I presume that you know if it is true, and who the perp is. Share, please.
Arranging naked male detainees in a pile and then jumping on them
So were any Iraqis hurt or harmed in this stunt? How badly?
Positioning a naked detainee on a MRE Box, with a sandbag on his head, and attaching wires to his fingers, toes, and penis to simulate electric torture
Seen this one, but can't really say anything but obviously a pose. Standing around in silly positions stuff. However, I don't think this person was naked - was wearing some kind of poncho or something, I think. Simulated torture????
A male MP guard having sex with a female detainee
Ah. I do think you must have gotten one of the fakes, from www.sexinwar.com in Budapest. My sympathies, and better luck on your next surf. Or.... do you have some substantiation for that one?
Using military working dogs (without muzzles) to intimidate and frighten detainees, and in at least one case biting and severely injuring a detainee
Working dogs? Not rabid or anything, I hope? Actually, I tend to believe anyone injured around a working dog probably did something stupid. Most bites are the fault of the bitten one. Disappointing as that may be, it's true. So, verifications. Names, who did what to who, where are the (verified) pictures and general evidence? How much is from al Jazeera, how much from al Arabya, how much from Lew Rockwell? And how much from any formal investigation?