[ShandaLear]

"They aren't going to like us anymore or less if Bush grovels or explains or anything. They'll see it as weakness, and it will embolden them."

Absolutely irrelevent! It's not about being liked. That fact does not preclude us from doing the right thing and it looks to me as if President Bush chose to do it this morning.

As a country it's imparative that we take the moral high ground and part of that means doing the right thing regardless of how anyone else perceives it or reacts to it. I couldn't give a rat's hindend about who likes us more as a result.

[Monty22]

I'm more concerned about victory in this world war over morality.

Some still question the nuking of Japan, but I say victory at all costs.

We've lost that mentality, and that's what I am upset about.

[Bluntpoint]

According to such logic we might as well be molesting their children.

Morallity has no meaning when the moral one does not get a box of candy after their moral act.