The Divine Calm of George W. Bush: Iraq's a mess, half the country hates you - just keep praying!

Village Voice ^ | May 3rd, 2004 9:30 AM | Rick Perlstein

[Brad’s Gramma]

I've got housework to do. I need to leave...I may or may NOT be back later. :-)

[Perlstein]

What's wrong with the Moses part? That it makes Bush look crazy? The story is drawn nearly verbatim from his own autobiography, for heaven's sake!

[Mo1]

My question: let's just assume, for the sake of argument, that George W. Bush did something you didn't like, that you thought was disastrous. Even in the face of bad results, he kept at it. You get frustrated, and hope he will hew back to a course you do agree with. But then you realize he will never change, because Bush thinks his course is divinely ordained.

thinks his course is divinely ordained??

Apparently you don't get it

President Bush doesn't look to his faith as divinely ordained .. He looks to his faith for guidance and strength

Why does that seem to bother you?

[Howlin]

Here's some more of these "facts" he's using to debase Bush:

Selected minutes acquired by Haaretz from one of last week's cease-fire negotiations between Palestinian Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas and faction leaders from the Hamas, Islamic Jihad and the Popular and Democratic Fronts, reveal some of the factors at play behind the scenes in the effort to achieve a hudna.

And then at the end of the article:

Abbas said that at Aqaba, Bush promised to speak with Sharon about the siege on Arafat. He said nobody can speak to or pressure Sharon except the Americans.

According to Abbas, immediately thereafter Bush said: "God told me to strike at al Qaida and I struck them, and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East. If you help me I will act, and if not, the elections will come and I will have to focus on them."

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So the only person who "heard" that remark was Abbas. I believe him, do you? Check "yes" or "no."

[VRWC_minion]

If he did, he wouldn't be talking to advisors and seeking out additional information.

Actually, seeking advice is a Christian requirement.

[sport]

Only the fools, idiots, perverts,liars, communists,socialists,people who cannot think for themselves, and free loaders hate President Bush.

To put it another another way,only the clinton worshippers and main stream media hate President Bush.

[Brad’s Gramma]

And if you read the live thread on his press conference, you will see that the preponderance of participants found Bush's most honorable quality his refusal to admit mistakes in the war on terrorism.

One last thing before I go....that's because it was a lynch mob, with their Democratic Talking Point(s). Of COURSE we were proud of him.

[Mo1]

Because you seem to be taking it out of context and ridiculing him about his faith

[onyx]

Your anti-Bush agenda has been outed here.
Own up.

[Tamzee]

Talk about arrogance--that God's ways are an open book, and that we can simply equate our leader with that which God wishes to incarnate.

I imagine you are of the opinion that we can't judge the entire Muslim population by the actions or opinions of the most radical or extreme believers... you know, those "religious" folks that shoot pregnant women and innocent children at point-blank range? So why are you so eager to do so with Christianity? You are choosing the opinions of a select few and making sweeping statements about the values and opinions of the rest of the Christian population.

[Perlstein]

Why do people keep on coming up with examples of people who say that the terrorists had physical courage, and construe that as approval of their "character or sincerity"? Physical courage is not character or sincerity. A kid who honors a friend's dare to jump of the proverbial bridge has physical courage; as does someone who gives up their life for a cause, even if the cause is pure evil. That was Maher's point--and is Maher really a leftist, by the way? As for Mailer, he's a tired old bat who no one has cared about for 20 years.

[VRWC_minion]

our awareness that His ways are mysterious and unkownable

You just described Gnostics not Christians. Gnosticism is was declared a heresy long ago.

[Howlin]

Ah, but Kerry is a pretender; sort of the Blanche DuBois of prep schools and the social circles; always having "an uncle" pay for those things, because his parents were not wealthy.

As for this remark,

Does it have something to do with growing up wealthy and handsome, the son of a powerful politician, breezing through Yale under the protection of his Skull and Bones confreres?

When people actually put pen to paper and write crap like that, I always know one thing: they were blackballed by some fraternity or sorority along the way.

[Perlstein]

>your have your facts ALL wrong.

Examples? Which facts are wrong? Were they the ones I pulled directly from Bush's autobiography?

[onyx]

Just once, I would like to see a Bush hater
do his hating in an honest, factual manner,
but they can't.

No dirt on President Bush.
The honesty of our POTUS gets them everytime.

[Mo1]

Well gosh golly .. ain't that a nice article /sarcasm >

[VRWC_minion]

Bush has consistently refused to admit a single mistake

But the real issue isn't admitting a mistake, which in his posistion is not only dangerous politically on the home front, it has distarous consequnces with both friends and foes.

The real issue is has he changed course when given new information. That is clear. We can see him changing course numerous times both on the macor and micro.

[Perlstein]

>>Only the fools, idiots, perverts,liars, communists,socialists,people who cannot think for themselves, and free loaders hate President Bush.

>>To put it another another way,only the clinton worshippers and main stream media hate President Bush.

Tell me which one I am, and I'll respond.

[VRWC_minion]

His immigration "proposal." He believes he's doing the right thing. I disagree, but I respect him for his stance. And for his faith in God. .

Actually, as i have pointed out before, his immigration proposal is a direct reflection that the bible tells us to treat aliens like our own. Bush is following the bible and his supporters don't like him for it.

[Howlin]

Examples? Which facts are wrong?

These are YOUR words from that disgusting post that was linked, are they not?

So why were 140 members and associates of two families with close business and social ties to the Bush family—the bin Ladens, and the royal family of Saudi Arabia—allowed the only flights out of the country on those days?

An absolute lie. But you know that, don't you?