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Forceful Reason: Fallaci issues a wake-up call to Europe.
National Review ^ | May 04, 2004, 8:34 a.m | Lorenzo Vidino

Posted on 05/04/2004 7:03:20 AM PDT by Eurotwit

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To: Eurotwit
Oriana Fallaci BUMP
61 posted on 05/04/2004 2:01:23 PM PDT by MegaSilver (Training a child in red diapers is the cruelest and most unusual form of abuse.)
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To: ex-snook
If Europe had listened to the Church and not swallowed 'the pill' and used abortion as the second line of defense against children, European socialism would not need Muslims imported to work their dole society.

They don't need them anyway.

Economists will tell you that there is no such thing as a labor shortage--only an unwillingness to pay people enough to get off the couch.

62 posted on 05/04/2004 2:02:58 PM PDT by MegaSilver (Training a child in red diapers is the cruelest and most unusual form of abuse.)
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To: Eurotwit
pander to every request from the increasingly powerful Muslim communities

I feel like the same thing is going on in this country. We are helping them destroy us

63 posted on 05/04/2004 2:20:19 PM PDT by paul51
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To: ken5050
Will somebody in Congress please answer the phone!!!
64 posted on 05/04/2004 3:01:56 PM PDT by navyblue
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To: knighthawk
Excellent post knighthawk!
65 posted on 05/04/2004 3:28:53 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: Askel5; Romulus; eastsider; Pyro7480; seamole; AnAmericanMother; Desdemona; Jeff Chandler; ...
Must read ping.
66 posted on 05/04/2004 4:13:13 PM PDT by Siobhan (+Pray the Divine Mercy Chaplet+)
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To: pabianice
Yes, just as many countries had to be taken over by the Nazis before we got serious about Hitler.
67 posted on 05/04/2004 6:51:06 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: knighthawk
According to Fallaci, the West has not realized that it is under attack, and that this war "wants to hit our soul rather than our body. Our way of life, our philosophy of life. Our way of thinking, acting and loving. Our freedom. Do not be fooled by their explosives. That is just a strategy. The terrorists, the kamikazes, do not kill us just for the sake of killing us. They kill us to bend us. To intimidate us, tire us, demoralize us, blackmail us."

She's a very interesting writer. I'm looking forward to reading her next book.

68 posted on 05/04/2004 8:46:37 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul (Kerry is excited that Teresa's given him permission to drive his SUV to run a few brief errands)
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To: Steve_Seattle
An atheistic christian is one whose culture is based in large measure on christianity, as is, indeed, a good chunk of their ethical and moral beliefs.

But, in the absence of belief in Jesus, these ethical commandments become recommendations, then habit, then custom, and finally superstition.

it's not her fault that some readers can't keep up.
70 posted on 05/04/2004 8:52:46 PM PDT by epigone73
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"Do not be fooled by their explosives. That is just a strategy. The terrorists, the kamikazes, do not kill us just for the sake of killing us. They kill us to bend us. To intimidate us, tire us, demoralize us, blackmail us."

72 posted on 05/04/2004 9:06:28 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: knighthawk
Am eagerly awaiting her new book. BTTT and thanks!
73 posted on 05/04/2004 11:54:22 PM PDT by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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To: ken5050
*BUMP* ! I agree with you 110%.
74 posted on 05/05/2004 7:26:57 AM PDT by ex-Texan
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To: Eurotwit
Bump fer later reading.
75 posted on 05/05/2004 8:28:16 AM PDT by BJClinton (If Sudafed is outlawed, odly oudlas wid had Zudaved.~04/29/2004 2:02:26 PM CDT by George Smiley)
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To: ken5050
brilliant?

she denies Jesus the Christ, the bedrock of Western culture, while decrying the demise of the West

that is insane, not brilliant
there's a fine line between insanity and brilliance
76 posted on 05/05/2004 11:56:05 AM PDT by Notwithstanding (Good parents don't let their kids attend public school or watch most TV)
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To: Notwithstanding
Valid point. I was addressing her comments, her thesis on the ongoing clash of cultures..the war on terror..however, for your benefit, I'll modify my statemnet. "She's brilliant, compared to 99.9% of the Europeans"..OK? can't we all just get along now...(G)
77 posted on 05/05/2004 11:58:35 AM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to propagate her genes.....any volunteers?)
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To: Siobhan
she denies the bedrock of the West (Christ)
while decrying the collapse of the culture

she may have good ideas, but her work is the perfect example of reason without faith

fides et ratio: they go together - reason is a gift from God
78 posted on 05/05/2004 11:59:40 AM PDT by Notwithstanding (Good parents don't let their kids attend public school or watch most TV)
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To: ken5050
that is true!

I live among euroweenies now - we turn lots of heads when the 8 of us pile out of our minivan and wander through town
79 posted on 05/05/2004 12:01:11 PM PDT by Notwithstanding (Good parents don't let their kids attend public school or watch most TV)
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To: Notwithstanding
There is no West without Christ.

Without Christ there are merely pagan tribes to be conquered as once they were in time past.

80 posted on 05/05/2004 4:35:41 PM PDT by Siobhan (+Pray the Divine Mercy Chaplet+)
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