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Touching the Untouchable: India Targets Christian Converts [Breakpoint]
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| May 3, 2004
| Chuck Colson
Posted on 05/03/2004 3:54:55 AM PDT by Paul_B
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To: *Christian persecutio
india ping
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posted on
05/03/2004 6:37:16 AM PDT
by
DTA
(you ain't seen nothing yet.)
To: Blood of Tyrants
Where did you learn this piece of hog refuse from? Your friendly neighbourhood tv evangelist?
To: 2banana
Thanks. Looks good, and it's the first I've heard of it.
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posted on
05/03/2004 6:44:23 AM PDT
by
Paul_B
To: Blood of Tyrants
Right. A belief in Karma is the justification for most of this.
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posted on
05/03/2004 6:46:25 AM PDT
by
Paul_B
To: Alouette
I doubt the untouchables will be getting any of our outsourcing. I also doubt trickle-down is a significant dynamic here.
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posted on
05/03/2004 6:47:12 AM PDT
by
Paul_B
To: Zack Nguyen
Christianity came to India two thousand years ago.But still, it didn't manage to get a sizable population to convert. What is it in Hinduism that kept so many sticking to this faith? Coercion? That's a bullsh!t of an answer oft spread by cynical evangelists.You must remember that what you call the caste system in Hinduism, it is not part of the religion.In fact, there are umpteen deities in Hinduism who are regarded "untouchable" or "low" caste in origin.What you see as the caste system is the result of the several dozen ethnic and racial groups trying to segregate themselves to prevent intermingling.Much like the apartheid that existed not very long ago in the United States, S.Africa, Europe etc.(Mind you, racial tensions still exist in your country).Now by the same logic, can I call apartheid a feature of Christianity? If you intend to say that your religion, by way of its scriptures abhors apartheidand racism, I can equally declare you won't be able to find a single phrase promoting the same in the scriptures of Hinduism.Also, Hinduism is not a real religion, much less an organised one.No one 'converts' to Hinduism, nor does anyone 'leave' it.No hindu can prove he/she is a hindu.
To: Chronos; swarthyguy
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To: Cronos; swarthyguy
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To: swarthyguy
ping.
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posted on
05/03/2004 6:53:42 AM PDT
by
Antoninus
(In hoc signo, vinces †)
To: Paul_B
This is another example of a different "religion of peace" going all Nazi. It's also another example of people saying, "All religions are ways to God--except for Christianity."
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posted on
05/03/2004 6:57:46 AM PDT
by
aruanan
To: Blood of Tyrants
The continual process of life in misery then death and then possibly life again in misery offers nothing. I believe the point is to do good in this life so the next life is in better conditions.
To: jimtorr
I think you can expect BJP attacks on Christian missions in general in the near future.
Anyone know off the top of their head how many people constitute the "untouchable" caste in India? If it's 20% of the population, we're talking about ca. 200,000,000 people. If even half that number converted, that's a huge number of new Christians.
I know Catholicism is growing in India. How about the various protestant groups?
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posted on
05/03/2004 6:59:38 AM PDT
by
Antoninus
(In hoc signo, vinces †)
To: All
For certain is death for the born And certain is birth for the dead; Therefore over the inevitable Thou shouldst not grieve. -Bhagavad Gita, Chapter 2
To: All
Still your mind in me, still yourself in me, and without a doubt you shall be united with me, Lord of Love, dwelling in your heart.
I look upon all creatures equally; none are less dear to me and none more dear. But those who worship me with love live in me, and I come to life in them.
God is seated in the hearts of all.
He who sees me in all things, and all things in me, is never far from me, and I am never far from him.
-Lord Krishna from Chapter 6, Bhishma(P. Lal); also part of Bhagavad Gita
To: AnIndianFromIndia
Is there any teaching in Hinduism that rejects or abhors the caste system? There is such teaching the the Christian scriptures that erases national, cultural, and economic divisions between people ("In Christ, there is no Jew or Greek...") and I assume such teaching appeals to those whose people have been oppressed for generations.
That some "Christians" throughout history have ignored this particular teaching has nothing to do with the fact that it does indeed exist.
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posted on
05/03/2004 7:06:08 AM PDT
by
Antoninus
(In hoc signo, vinces †)
To: ZULU
I stand corrected. The Dravidians were the original inhabitants of the Sub-continent. I didn't recall an "Aryan" (historical sense) although it would make sense. I am quite sure there was a Greek influence dating to the time of Alexander.
Thanks for the heads up!
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posted on
05/03/2004 7:10:53 AM PDT
by
olde north church
(islam is to peace as abortion is to child-rearing)
To: Paul_B
My church helps to sponsor these people
HBI (Hindustan Bible Institute) and we send a short term mission team a couple of times a year. They work with orphanages, provided medical/dental services and spread The Gospel. HBI's vision is to build 100,000 small churches. You do the math and that's not a lot - 1 billion people that's a church for every 10,000 people. Bobbi Gupta is their leader (I think his father started the ministry in th 1950s) and is a wonderfull speaker and a great Brother in Christ.
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posted on
05/03/2004 7:14:10 AM PDT
by
tang-soo
To: Antoninus
"n the 16th century, during Sri Vaadiraja 's rule, Kanakadasa, an ardent believer of God, came to Udupi to worship Lord Krishna. He was not allowed inside the temple since he was from a lower caste. Sri Krishna, pleased by the worship of Kanakadasa created a small hole in the back wall of the temple and (his idol) turned to face the hole so that Kanakadasa could see him. This hole came to be known as KanakanaKindi. "
http://www.mangalore.com/documents/udupi.html
To: tang-soo
Excellent. Every bit helps. Thanks.
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posted on
05/03/2004 7:17:19 AM PDT
by
Paul_B
To: Antoninus
Krishna's life is strickingly similar to that of Moses, even the part where his biological parents are persecuted by the then rulers of the land, and the king's decree of killing every first born of the slaves.So, infant Krishna was placed in a casket so that he may be rescued.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Little Krishna and Mother Yashoda
Note that the skin colour of the woman holding the infant Krishna is much lighter than that of the infant itself.
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