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The American public must fight the war on perception
Santa Cruz Sentinel ^ | May 2, 2004 | ROBERT NOFSINGER

Posted on 05/02/2004 8:02:23 PM PDT by FairOpinion

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Outstanding letter!

He is right.

If people would only listen, stop, and think, instead of letting the media tell them what they are supposed to think.

1 posted on 05/02/2004 8:02:23 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
Santa Cruz Sentinel? As in Santa Cruz, CA? Whoa. I need to lie down for a while.
2 posted on 05/02/2004 8:06:28 PM PDT by Avenger
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To: FairOpinion
If people would only listen, stop, and think, instead of letting the media tell them what they are supposed to think.

People are trying to just that here on FR but any independent thought is attacked as a sacrilege against strategery.

People know victory when they see it. Anything else is propaganda.

3 posted on 05/02/2004 8:16:13 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: FairOpinion
You are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT !!!!!!!!!!!!
4 posted on 05/02/2004 8:19:00 PM PDT by patriciamary
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To: af_vet_1981
People are trying to just that here on FR but any independent thought is attacked as a sacrilege against strategery

Wrong, so called "independent thought" from "reports" from the Washington Post, Reuters, etc.etc. and you soak up the "reports" from these known leftist bias anti-WOT sources and get mad when called on it.

5 posted on 05/02/2004 8:19:23 PM PDT by Dane
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To: FairOpinion
I saw a most interesting interview on CSPAN today, with author & historian Niall Ferguson. His latest book is called Colossus and appears to be a must read for those who want to fully understand our greatest danger at this point in time, the lack of will to be the empire we are in the world. In brief he says the American People have an Attention Deficit Disorder when it comes to politics and political correctness is crippling our view of everything important.

I believe Bush knows that his being re-elected is important to the world not just our nation, but trying to execute this war and keep our eyes focused on the big picture is like walking a tightrope. A tightrope that the media is desperately trying to shake with pictures of abused prisoners and the reading of all the names of those who have died in Iraq.

Everything is at stake in November. God willing, Bush will win and he'll be able to do what will be of benefit for generations to come.
6 posted on 05/02/2004 8:20:19 PM PDT by Maigret
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To: Avenger
Nahhhh, must be a Santa Cruz with a Sentinel in Arizona or something. Nueva Mexico?
7 posted on 05/02/2004 8:21:04 PM PDT by WideGlide
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To: Dane
Wrong, so called "independent thought" from "reports" from the Washington Post, Reuters, etc.etc. and you soak up the "reports" from these known leftist bias anti-WOT sources and get mad when called on it.

You are so far out there I don't know what anyone can do for you. The principals of this administration deal with the real world, including the Washington Post. Even the WP can't hide victory. All your propaganda wishes can't impersonate victory. Fallujah is calling you to account.

8 posted on 05/02/2004 8:22:31 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: FairOpinion
Thanks ... great one.
9 posted on 05/02/2004 8:23:07 PM PDT by freedom44
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To: Maigret
"Everything is at stake in November. God willing, Bush will win and he'll be able to do what will be of benefit for generations to come."


Even if Bush gets reelected, 4 (more) years isn't long enough to win the WOT, regardless of how many more Muslims our troops are able to kill. This death match will continue for much longer.
10 posted on 05/02/2004 8:25:07 PM PDT by Blzbba
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To: af_vet_1981
You are so far out there I don't know what anyone can do for you. The principals of this administration deal with the real world, including the Washington Post. Even the WP can't hide victory. All your propaganda wishes can't impersonate victory. Fallujah is calling you to account

And your "independent thought"( propaganda, IMO) from 6,000 miles away can't give us the real pciture, either.

Me I will trust our CIC and military commanders in the field, not a, IMO, blowhard who is 6,000 miles away from the action and bases his "independent thoughts" on well documented anti-WOT press account sources.

11 posted on 05/02/2004 8:28:35 PM PDT by Dane
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"Everything is at stake in November. God willing, Bush will win and he'll be able to do what will be of benefit for generations to come."

What you said! I've got three new voters who will ALL vote for bush. I am also working on my old friend. and I am contemplating approaching my landlord and lady before November.

BUSH MUST WIN. We must put the stick in the eye to the commies, the america haters, the leftists, the dems.

12 posted on 05/02/2004 8:32:26 PM PDT by jocon307 (The dems don't get it, the American people do.)
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To: FairOpinion
Long on insight; short on remedial actions.

The enemy's strategy is classic Viet Nam. But the answer cannot be to outshout the useful idiots, no one reacts well to be shouted at or forced into accepting someone else's position.

Remedial actions require fighting fire with fire. Ask yourself, just what tactics is the enemy employing to influence hearts and minds? They are masters of images, photographs of caskets worked very well to loosen US resolve during Viet Nam, as did seizing upon atrocities committed by extremely stupid soldiers (the 17 prision keepers in Iraq this week; Captain Calley (sp) burning and killing in Viet Name villages. I just finished two hours on the ultra-liberal Washington Post discussion forum, where useful idiots in Europe and in the US are trying to generalize the actions of 17 into an indictment of the entire 150,000 Coalition. I encourage you to jump on the Washington Post discussion forum but be forewarned, I've gotten bounced twice before posing a different view. You need to be persistent and avoid responding directly to truly Howard Dean irrational comments -- focus only on the facts and be polite, as difficult as it is to some of them.

Frankly, I don't think preaching to the choir is particularly useful either. While I completely enjoy Free Republic, American Spectator, National Review; yes, and even Rush; and meeting with like minder people; this is not where the battle of hearts and minds is won.

The useful idiots in the US are reinforced by the obvious media outlets. But the achilles heel for media outlets (CNN, NYT, ABC, CBS, Washington Post, MSNNBC) is that they are for-profit organizations. While we may not represent the majority of their consumers, we can band together to represent the most "known" portion of their demographic. They may take pause at a list of a thousand petitioners who demand they provide balance in their coverage.

This article is a timely call for action. It is so important that I would like to see a category devoted to it (if one doesn't already exist) where we can take collective action to promote the good in our country while giving support to our troops who are well-deserving of it.
13 posted on 05/02/2004 8:33:10 PM PDT by MN_Mike (In Pelosi, Kerry and the Blow Fish (Kennedy) We Mis-Trust)
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To: MHGinTN
FYI
14 posted on 05/02/2004 8:33:38 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: af_vet_1981
You're right.

I came on Free Republic the other day and 9 out of the 10 posts seemed like they should be on Democratic Underground,
and watching FOXNews i thought i was watching the BBC.

Alot of people on here are starting to remind me of the Leftists in things they're saying - we're only there to steal the oil, we need to pull out, no one wants us there, President Bush can't admit he's wrong, etc.

There are many who support our President, but there are many who have this warped view that being extremely critical is a helpful thing.

Some just hate Muslims, and that will probably never change, but perhaps, they have forgotten that President Bush carries a Koran on his desk, was the first president to court the Muslim vote, has freed two Muslim countries, and has separated from Moderates from Radicals.

I don't even understand why some of these people vote Republican, but nevertheless i'm glad they're voting that way... just wish they'd be a little less critical.


15 posted on 05/02/2004 8:34:16 PM PDT by freedom44
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To: freedom44; Double_Plus_Good
Good post.
16 posted on 05/02/2004 8:36:10 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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Thanks for the ping ... I couldn't have said it better, though I would have named names.
17 posted on 05/02/2004 8:38:15 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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Did I mention how proud I am of our military?I hate to see them undermined,just hate it.
18 posted on 05/02/2004 8:40:27 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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I think I understand what you are saying. However, I don't waste any time on certain well-known posters who are contrary just for the sake of being contrary.

MHGinTN, you should name names.


A.K.A. Sleepy Brown

19 posted on 05/02/2004 8:44:21 PM PDT by rdb3 (Let others praise ancient times; I am glad I was born in these.)
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To: MEG33
It appears that a few tasked with softening up the captured terrorists operating in Iraq went too far and took pictures of it. It breaks my heart also that the 99.9999% other American Soldiers will take the heat from this wrong committed by a select few. It also infuriates me that the likes of Kerry and Kennedy and the societal engineering liberal pukes of the big media (like CrapBilgeSludge) exploit the wrong for political leverage against this administration, with zero regard for what it will mean to Americans if they are now taken prisoner in Iraq. The way the media is handling these stories is treacherous to our in theater Soldiers. And I will not forget such treachery when it comes time to vote, with ballot and consumer power.
20 posted on 05/02/2004 8:45:18 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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