A Toomey/Specter Epitaph

self | 05/01/04 | joanie-f

[Jeff Head]

Joanie, as usual, very well said, articulated and conveyed.

I would call your thick fog...strong dilusions.

Other than that, and the following quote...I have nothing to add.

"[N]either the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt. He therefore is the truest friend of the liberty of his country who tries most to promote its virtue, and who, so far as his power and influence extend, will not suffer a man to be chosen onto any office of power and trust who is not a wise and virtuous man." Samuel Adams

Thank you for extending your power and influence in just the manner Sam Adams indicated. God would that more and more citizens would do so.

[FairOpinion]

If we work and get a strong Republican majority in Congress, where we can afford to lose a seat or two and still maintain a good majority, then I am in favor of slowly picking off the RINOs one by one, and taking a chance that we wind up either with a more conservative Republican or a Democrat -- but it wouldn't cause major damage to the US.

Specter has a 95% chance of winning. Toomey stood a 50-50 or less shot against Hoeffel. We can't afford to convert a near certain Republican victory to a 50-50 or less shot, which may make the difference in who controls the Senate.

Right now we are at war, living in critical times, we CANNOT afford to take any chances, that would give the Democrats more power. THAT is why Santorum supporter Specter. He understands what's at stake.

[King Prout]

that is an excellent post, and I hope my fellow Georgians take heed of it in the upcoming Senatorial election... and VOTE CAIN

[joanie-f]

I think if Colorado, Oklahoma and Illinois had not gone up for grabs at the last minute, things would have been different, but those retirements really hurt.

You're right. Sometimes coincidental timing can make a world of difference. In this case, it appears that Specter was the beneficiary.

[FairOpinion]

"This is a battle for the heart and soul of the Republican Party "


Is Kerry and Hoeffel the "heart and soul" of the Republican party -- they are the ones you seem to be working to elect.

Haven't you ever heard where the road with good intention leads?

[Prolifeconservative]

I hope many conservatives write Toomey's name in protest and thereby cost the RINO Spectre his Senate seat. Until this sort of thing happens, the GOP will always take advantage of us true conservatives. They take us for granted and, I for one, am getting damned tired of it.

I am also damned tired of being denigrated as a "one-issue" voter thank you very much Rush Limbaugh!!!! Why heck, as long as we're winning the war and we have low unemployment, low inflation, low interest rates, and the stock market is cooking why should we really give a rat's behind if 3 or 4 thousand unborn children get butchered this year. Hey, party on dudes, IBM is going through the roof.

[ServesURight]

Well, it's all the question whether you want Kerry or Bush as US president, and whether you prefer a Republican or a Democrat Senate.

Sorry, but you're not persuading anyone with this tired red herring. A lot of Pennsylvania conservatives will vote for Bush but not for Spectator. As far as Spectator making a difference between a GOP Congress and a Rat one, that's laughable since Spectator votes with Rats, so control of Congress is irrelevant.

I personally don't see how anyone could have any claim to being a conservative while preferring Democrats to be elected.

So voting for Spectator is being conservative?

Lady, you got issues.

[NittanyLion]

Toomey stood a 50-50 or less shot against Hoeffel.

Good to see you finally learned Hoeffel's name. Frankly, I'm surprised to see you offering odds considering you didn't even know who the Democrat nominee was as of this morning.

[joanie-f]

He therefore is the truest friend of the liberty of his country who tries most to promote its virtue, and who, so far as his power and influence extend, will not suffer a man to be chosen onto any office of power and trust who is not a wise and virtuous man." Samuel Adams

Bears constant, drumbeat repeating.

Sam Adams knew the human heart, and the American vision, maybe as well as anyone. We was an optimist, but with (justified) reservations that we would do well to heed.

Thanks, Jeff.

[King Prout]

this post on the Toomey effort in PA bears on the Cain campaign, I think.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

Whatever....

[joanie-f]

I hope my fellow Georgians take heed of it in the upcoming Senatorial election... and VOTE CAIN

From what I've read, Cain appears to be a good example of an entrepreneur who learned about the vices of government (at least in part) through running a successful business. More power to him!

Take Pennsylvania as an example of what grassroots support and legwork can do for a relatively unknown candidate.

Specter spent months strong arming union leaders in order to cause strongly democrat union members to re-register as Republicans so as to skew the Republican primary results.

Specter outspent Toomey almost four-to-one ($14,000,000+ to $4,000,000+)

Spector’s campaign ads contained out and out slanderous lies (even attempting to implicate his opponent in the fabricated sale of drugs at an establishment that he once owned).

President Bush and Senator Santorum vocally endorsed him, and appeared in person with him during political rallies in the last week of the campaign, and in countless television and radio ads.

And yet, despite the fact that the above advantages would normally spell certain and huge defeat for any opposition candidate, Toomey came within 1.5% of deposing the corrupt and powerful four-term incumbent.

You can do the same or better in Georgia.

~ joanie

[joanie-f]

Thanks for the kind comments (and for printing it out for someone else :).

I couldn't possibly vote for Hoeffel, but there are other options besides voting for Specter that should be given careful consideration.

[ServesURight]

Toomey had an excellent shot at defeating Specter. I guess your posts simply reveal the lack of confidence you have in grass-root conservatism, instead preferring to wallow in slow boiled frog complacency, where you and other registered Republicans in the neighborhood squeal in delight at seeing the mailbox overflowing with RNC fundraising requests and brochures.

[aodell]

Thank you!

Everybody should post this on their refrigerator and when they find themselves listening to the "pundits" go over and read it, and then turn the television off! ;)

Toomey's day will come.

[brityank]

Well said, Joanie.

Politics is the art of compromise.
Principles can never be compromised.
You either stand for something, or for nothing.

Specter has no principles, he is worthless.

[FairOpinion]

Yes, all the fine "grass roots conservatives" are the best friends the Democrats could have. Proof positive: California.

[fatima]

joanie-f,Some of us received a private email to vote Toomey in,I was already in the game for him.I wait for the next email letter .Sometimes looking at the big picture in politics make you sick .

[NewLand]

"this post on the Toomey effort in PA bears on the Cain campaign, I think."

Thanks KP.

Not exactly, though. Spector is an incumbent Senator...Isakson and Cain are not incumbents. POTUS' will usually only campaign for incumbents.

Maybe the folks up there in PA need to realize that...although, personally, I don't like Spector and would have like to see him lose.

In the end, the voters have only themselves to blame, not GWB or Santorum.